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Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

And more taxation, means more redistribution. Do you oppose redistribution? Or is it central to your political ideology?

Money is being redistributed upwards at an alarming rate due to Govt. policies. Why doesn't Govt. have the duty to slow it down? It is unsustainable. Even if we didn't need the money we would be foolish not to.
 
Money is being redistributed upwards at an alarming rate due to Govt. policies. Why doesn't Govt. have the duty to slow it down? It is unsustainable.

Horsecrap

that is like saying the Rules of Tennis "redistribute" prize money to the best players
 
Money is being redistributed upwards at an alarming rate due to Govt. policies. Why doesn't Govt. have the duty to slow it down? It is unsustainable.

Your flawed notion fails to account for the fact that the govt should not be redistributing wealth.
Or do two wrongs make a right in your book?
 
I don't care what they eat but I'll be damned if people like you steal from my table in order to buy the votes of those too lazy to feed themselves

LOL.....you obviously like a Marie Antoinette lifestyle.....without clue to what the working poor do. Most people living in poverty work, many 2-3 jobs. So much for your "too lazy to feed themselves" propaganda talking points. You might want to get out a little more.
 
LOL.....you obviously like a Marie Antoinette lifestyle.....without clue to what the working poor do. Most people living in poverty work, many 2-3 jobs. So much for your "too lazy to feed themselves" propaganda talking points. You might want to get out a little more.

LOL you pretend to be some savior of the poor. and some need saving but far too many have become addicted to government pandering

YOu telling me what I need to do is a real riot. I have been all over the world and I have seen real poverty in the slums of Bogota or Nairobi.
 
Has the right ever seen a tax they do like?

taxes should be seen like colonoscopies or prostate exams. when you start liking them, we should your head examined
 
Tell me how Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs affected the charts you are posting or all the other rich people who created wealth for themselves and others? I asked you a question in another post, look forward to the answer but doubt I will get one.

Tell me how any of them would have gotten rich without a healthy middle class to buy their products? You make too much of the 1%, we all admire them but they will always be there at the top of the heap. It's the 90% we need to be concerned about, they are the ones hurting. I bet most of those names you mentioned would agree.
 
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LOL you pretend to be some savior of the poor. and some need saving but far too many have become addicted to government pandering

YOu telling me what I need to do is a real riot. I have been all over the world and I have seen real poverty in the slums of Bogota or Nairobi.


Good for you. You still don't have a clue about the realities of who is receiving government aid in this country. You have bought into a 30 second right-wing propaganda talking point and continue to cling to it refusing to look at reality...which is your prerogative, but it is still wrong and misguided.
 
Your flawed notion fails to account for the fact that the govt should not be redistributing wealth.
Or do two wrongs make a right in your book?

Part of Governments job is to maintain the economy and keep it growing. That's why we have a Federal Reserve, and a bunch of regulations that are meant to prevent damage to the economy that would hurt us all. We have learned from history that left to its own devices capitalism is a rocky road filled with ups and downs. So people no longer lose their savings when the bank fails. It things like that that instill trust in your Govt. and keep the wheels rolling at the same time.
The income distribution data shows that we are now about to hit one of those potholes and filling it a bit might cushion the ride enough so we will get through without too much damage. Sorry for the funky analogy but I was on a roll.....
 
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Part of Governments job is to maintain the economy and keep it growing. That's why we have a Federal Reserve, and a bunch of regulations that are meant to prevent damage to the economy that would hurt us all. We have learned from history that left to its own devices capitalism is a rocky road filled with ups and downs. So people no longer lose their savings when the bank fails. It things like that that instill trust in your Govt.
The income distribution data shows that we are now about to hit one of those potholes and filling it a bit might cushion the ride enough so we will get through. Sorry for the funky analogy but I was on a roll.....

Maintaining the economy=wealth redistribution. Things liberals say...
 
Maintaining the economy=wealth redistribution. Things liberals say...

Its funny that you didn't say that when Reagan made those huge tax cuts to the upper brackets. Reagan promised that by helping the wealthy the wealth would trickle down to all of us. Isn't that wealth redistribution?

Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. No truer words were ever said.
 
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Then you are not in favor of any Govt. There is none without taxes.

I have no problem for paying my share of government services. most of us who are net tax payers feel that way. what pisses me off is the constant pandering that the left does by claiming I don't pay ENOUGH taxes when I am part of the group that pays far more than we use
 
Its funny that you didn't say that when Reagan made those tax cuts to the upper brackets. Reagan promised that by helping the wealthy the wealth would trickle down to all of us. Isn't that wealth redistribution?

Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. No truer words were ever said.

Well I was 8 when Reagan left office, so I doubt I said that as well.
 
The easiest way to answer your question is to look at the history of tax cuts. Tax cuts to the middle/working classes tend to benefit the economy more, because they are more likely to spend the money thus stimulating the economy. This isn't true with tax cuts to the wealthy who already have more than they spend.

Were not talking about tax cuts for anyone...Obama is talking about tax increases.

So how does removing this money , even if it is only rich peoples money, benefit anyone?....
 
So.... Trickle down economics is a ****ing farce...

So.... Trickle down economics is a ****ing farce...

So.... Trickle down economics is a ****ing farce...

I guess that's why Ronald Reagan had the biggest economic expansion of the economy since WWII at that time, and why Obama's economy sucks, right? LOL

Its time for you to deal in facts and not your leftwing extremist fantasies.
 
Many of today's rich were yesterday's middle class, and even poor. That's the part that liberals always leave out: Mobility.

If a rich guy today was born into poverty, then God bless him, and let him enjoy the fruits of his success.

Liberals are all about envy. Its very ugly.

LOL.....that is a myth..........

Its not a myth. Its the testimony from the very people it has happened to.

Of course, it does require hard work and diligence. Most Liberals are too busy holding their hand out for government freebies to do that. Maybe that's why you don't get it.

9 Celebrities Who Were Born Poor - Huffington Post
Billionaires Who Came From Nothing - Business Insider
18 people who went from being poor to mega rich - Rediff.com Business
Rich And Famous People Who Used To Be Homeless - Business Insider
25 Rich And Famous People Who Were Once Homeless
Rich And Famous People Who Were Homeless - Business Insider
The Top 10 Rich People Who Were Once Poor

I have a lot more.
 
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