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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Cutting spending would be the preferred, of course. But short of that, to tax and spend is preferred to the republican model of borrow and spend.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Cutting spending would be the preferred, of course. But short of that, to tax and spend is preferred to the republican model of borrow and spend.
    Yes because that's what Obama has done over the last 6 years.

    He's raised taxes to pay for the 8 Trillion in new debt we've added.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yes because that's what Obama has done over the last 6 years.

    He's raised taxes to pay for the 8 Trillion in new debt we've added.
    Well that's the point. George W Bush doubled the national debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion, something you've seemed perfectly at ease with. Apparently, it's only when a democratic president doubles the ND (something Obama will likely accomplish as well) that partisans such as yourself begin the hand wringing. Personally, I have issues with federal government debt and would support a CA banning it. All spending should be paid for by tax and other revenues. Perhaps then, Americans would be less interested in maintaining a global police force and more interested with our own domestic ills. And there's no doubt a bunch of other spending Americans would learn to live without too.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well that's the point. George W Bush doubled the national debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion, something you've seemed perfectly at ease with. Apparently, it's only when a democratic president doubles the ND (something Obama will likely accomplish as well) that partisans such as yourself begin the hand wringing. Personally, I have issues with federal government debt and would support a CA banning it. All spending should be paid for by tax and other revenues. Perhaps then, Americans would be less interested in maintaining a global police force and more interested with our own domestic ills. And there's no doubt a bunch of other spending Americans would learn to live without too.
    Awe, yes, Bush doubled the debt by adding 4.9 trillion to the debt is a lot worse than Obama increasing it over 70% by adding 7.6 trillion to it. That is liberal logic

    Partisans who demonize Bush for adding to the debt ignore that one trillion of it was due to 9/11 and I thought most Americans said they would never forget. Apparently that wasn't you

    Do you have any idea how much of that debt is due to social spending? Any concept on how much of the budget is dedicated to social ills? Do ou have a limit on how big your Federal Govt should be since obviously the 4 trillion Obama budget isn't it?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

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    Awe, yes, Bush doubled the debt by adding 4.9 trillion to the debt is a lot worse than Obama increasing it over 70% by adding 7.6 trillion to it. That is liberal logic

    Partisans who demonize Bush for adding to the debt ignore that one trillion of it was due to 9/11 and I thought most Americans said they would never forget. Apparently that wasn't you

    Do you have any idea how much of that debt is due to social spending? Any concept on how much of the budget is dedicated to social ills? Do ou have a limit on how big your Federal Govt should be since obviously the 4 trillion Obama budget isn't it?
    Reagan tripled it, Bush 43 doubled it, and Obama is on course to double it again, how about consistently criticising government spending, rather then your partisan opinions that help nothing.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Reagan tripled it, Bush 43 doubled it, and Obama is on course to double it again, how about consistently criticising government spending, rather then your partisan opinions that help nothing.
    I look at results, Reagan added 1.7 trillion, Bush 4.9 trillion, and Obama 7.6 trillion to date.

    Reagan created 17 million jobs and neither Reagan or Bush even came close to having debt exceeding our GDP. It isn't the role of the Federal Govt. to run a surplus but rather to get results, Reagan got results, Bush got results, Obama is a disaster and shows his incompetence.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I look at results, Reagan added 1.7 trillion, Bush 4.9 trillion, and Obama 7.6 trillion to date.

    Reagan created 17 million jobs and neither Reagan or Bush even came close to having debt exceeding our GDP. It isn't the role of the Federal Govt. to run a surplus but rather to get results, Reagan got results, Bush got results, Obama is a disaster and shows his incompetence.
    Indubitably, results matter. Obama's contribution to the ND is 53% while Reagan's contribution was 186% increase.

    US Debt by President: By Dollar and Percent
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Indubitably, results matter. Obama's contribution to the ND is 53% while Reagan's contribution was 186% increase.

    US Debt by President: By Dollar and Percent
    So does it cost the taxpayers more money to fund a 1.7 trillion dollar debt or 7.6 trillion debt?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well that's the point. George W Bush doubled the national debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion, something you've seemed perfectly at ease with. Apparently, it's only when a democratic president doubles the ND (something Obama will likely accomplish as well) that partisans such as yourself begin the hand wringing. Personally, I have issues with federal government debt and would support a CA banning it. All spending should be paid for by tax and other revenues. Perhaps then, Americans would be less interested in maintaining a global police force and more interested with our own domestic ills. And there's no doubt a bunch of other spending Americans would learn to live without too.

    He did ? Let me guess, your'e dishonestly attributing 100 percent of the FY2009 budget to Bush.

    Even though it wasn't passed until October 2008, even though Obama signed 9 out of the 12 spending appropriations bills contained in it. In a budget that was put forward by Nancy Pelosi.

    In a budget that Bush publicly threatened to Veto the massive spending increases that were contained in it.

    Talk about being partisan.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Indubitably, results matter. Obama's contribution to the ND is 53% while Reagan's contribution was 186% increase.

    US Debt by President: By Dollar and Percent
    Reagan reduced spending as a percentage of GDP.

    Reagan's Presidency produced positive economic results and lifted this Country out of a malaise both economically and morally.

    Obamas presidency has only produced more mediocrity and struggle.

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