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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    To begin with, the population has increased by about 33%. You ignored that, why?
    Right, and we all know babies are born and go immediately in the work force. So tell me what part of that inflation calculator don't you understand? Are you going to tell me that the 1 trillion dollar budget Reagan submitted in 1987 for fiscal year 1988 is more than the budget Obama submitted for 2015? Do you have any clue as to the role of the Federal Govt? You buy what liberals tell you the role is now do some research and read the Constitution.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    To begin with, the population has increased by about 33%. You ignored that, why?
    What the hell does that have to do with the 3.9 trillion dollar Federal Govt? Figure out the role and get back to me

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, and we all know babies are born and go immediately in the work force. So tell me what part of that inflation calculator don't you understand? Are you going to tell me that the 1 trillion dollar budget Reagan submitted in 1987 for fiscal year 1988 is more than the budget Obama submitted for 2015? Do you have any clue as to the role of the Federal Govt? You buy what liberals tell you the role is now do some research and read the Constitution.
    once effects of inflation are accounted for
    do you think the government can provide the same level (and amounts) of services to a population that is 33% larger at the same cost? Why did you not factor this in? Shouldn't at a minimum your "new" baseline be ~2.7T, not 2.0T?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    To begin with, the population has increased by about 33%. You ignored that, why?
    Because money valuation comparisons (over time) aren't based on population but are based on inflationary rates.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    once effects of inflation are accounted for
    do you think the government can provide the same level (and amounts) of services to a population that is 33% larger at the same cost? Why did you not factor this in? Shouldn't at a minimum your "new" baseline be ~2.7T, not 2.0T?
    Depends on what "services" you think are the responsibility of the Federal Govt. Waiting for your list

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryOfromCA View Post
    Ridiculous, and out of context.

    If a person has a couple of credit cards and runs up a little balance on them (debt) that's normal.

    If a person has a couple hundred credit cards, maxed out, then gets new cards to pay the payment on the others, that's insane!

    The former is what Cheney referred to.
    The latter is what the idiot Obama has done.

    Wake up man.
    Cheney was referring to Reagan because he said, Reagan proved deficits don't matter. Let's take a looky at debt as a percentage under presidents since Roosevelt...

    US_Federal_Debt_as_Percent_of_GDP_by_President.jpg

    Looks like Eishenhower was the only republican with any fiscal responsibility. And tax rates at the top margin under Eishenhower were at 90% before Kennedy reduced them a little. Imagine that.

    ... aaaaaaannnd boom goes the dynamite.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Cheney was referring to Reagan because he said, Reagan proved deficits don't matter. Let's take a looky at debt as a percentage under presidents since Roosevelt...

    US_Federal_Debt_as_Percent_of_GDP_by_President.jpg

    Looks like Eishenhower was the only republican with any fiscal responsibility. And tax rates at the top margin under Eishenhower were at 90% before Kennedy reduced them a little. Imagine that.

    ... aaaaaaannnd boom goes the dynamite.
    Interesting how it omitted the trillion dollar Obama deficits in 2010-2011-2012. Imagine that? Reagan deficits totaled 1.7 trillion dollars in 8 years. Obama has added 7.6 trillion in 6, submitted a 3.9 trillion dollar budget and had that budget cut by the Congress and then took credit for cutting the deficit in half down to 600 billion.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Interesting how it omitted the trillion dollar Obama deficits in 2010-2011-2012. Imagine that? Reagan deficits totaled 1.7 trillion dollars in 8 years. Obama has added 7.6 trillion in 6, submitted a 3.9 trillion dollar budget and had that budget cut by the Congress and then took credit for cutting the deficit in half down to 600 billion.
    And you continue to lie and put Bush's budgets on Obama's back. No surprise here. Oh by the way... here's an updated one juuuuuust for you to ignore and/or deny.

    usdebttogdp_2012_thumb.jpg

    Looks like that nosediving Bush economy just got righted. Yet another body blow to that broken right-wing fiscal ideology... which is all talk and no facts. That's gotta smart.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    And you continue to lie and put Bush's budgets on Obama's back. No surprise here. Oh by the way... here's an updated one juuuuuust for you to ignore and/or deny.

    usdebttogdp_2012_thumb.jpg

    A body blow to that broken right-wing fiscal ideology... which is all talk and no facts. That's gotta smart.
    Show me the signed Bush budget for 2009 and I will apologize to the group. Your problem is you cannot because Bush didn't get his budget approved and Obama signed the 2009 budget. Try signing a contract and blame it on the previous individual and find out what happens?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Show me the signed Bush budget for 2009 and I will apologize to the group. Your problem is you cannot because Bush didn't get his budget approved and Obama signed the 2009 budget. Try signing a contract and blame it on the previous individual and find out what happens?
    If you got a problem with 2009 budget being Bush's... since Bush submitted this budget... then perhaps you should go take your complaints up with ohh.... the ultra-conservative CATO Institute.

    Don’t Blame Obama for Bush’s 2009 Deficit

    "The 2009 fiscal year began October 1, 2008, nearly four months before Obama took office."

    We all await your apology.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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