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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

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    Do you have any evidence to support this?
    OH, I don't know, 7.6 trillion added to the debt, 11.2% unemployment/under employment/discouraged workers, terrible recovery from what was described by liberals as the worst recession since the Great Depression, job creation just back to pre recession 2007 levels, total loss of the Congress, Obamacare causing premiums and deductibles to rise, loss of doctors and medical plan, rhetoric that doesn't match results, and I could go on but what is the use. You said you didn't vote for Obama and yet seem to support Obama polices so this is either an act or you are a liar like the guy in the WH

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

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    OH, I don't know, 7.6 trillion added to the debt, 11.2% unemployment/under employment/discouraged workers, terrible recovery from what was described by liberals as the worst recession since the Great Depression, job creation just back to pre recession 2007 levels, total loss of the Congress, Obamacare causing premiums and deductibles to rise, loss of doctors and medical plan, rhetoric that doesn't match results, and I could go on but what is the use. You said you didn't vote for Obama and yet seem to support Obama polices so this is either an act or you are a liar like the guy in the WH
    Some of the Obama policies I support, some I don't, some I don't support, some are absolutely horrid, but I do defend when political hacks are making invalid attacks on.

    Anyhow, all I see you doing is cherry picking metrics and facts, but I guess everyone does that, including myself. I can just as easily make a list of stuff which indicates you are correct, but I guess that's pointless, and I am sure you are aware of the facts that I would post.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    I saw the second half of the state of the union, and I watched the part about the wealth disparity. I do not recall him saying anything about raising taxes to the rich. All he was talking about was closing loopholes in the tax code, so that corporations and the wealthy have to pay their fair share of taxes. He wasn't raising taxes - rather he was changing the tax code.

    I think that is a very distinct and important difference. And I think it makes sense. The tax code needs to be simplified, we all know this, we all want this, but the people in power keep it the way it is because as that one really successful investor said, he pays less taxes than his secretary.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

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    Its not possible to blame Obama for waste in infrastructure project spending. Most of that money was given to the States and they decided how it should be spent. People talk about infrastructure spending as if its optional but it isn't.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Apparently the anti-obama people think they can balance the budget, expand the military, and pay off the debt without raising taxes. Good luck with that. You have two years before you lose a chamber again.
    no but we tire of the pandering that only guarantees more government when pimps like Obama tell the masses they can have more and more paid for by less and less voters



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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    I saw the second half of the state of the union, and I watched the part about the wealth disparity. I do not recall him saying anything about raising taxes to the rich. All he was talking about was closing loopholes in the tax code, so that corporations and the wealthy have to pay their fair share of taxes. He wasn't raising taxes - rather he was changing the tax code.

    I think that is a very distinct and important difference. And I think it makes sense. The tax code needs to be simplified, we all know this, we all want this, but the people in power keep it the way it is because as that one really successful investor said, he pays less taxes than his secretary.
    clue-the rich pay far more than any objective definition of FAIR SHARE

    obama is a pimp pandering to people who blame their failures on "the rich"

    Buffett doesn't pay less than his secretary. He pays a higher tax on his earned income than she does

    anyone who believes that idiocy is really gullible



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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    clue-the rich pay far more than any objective definition of FAIR SHARE

    obama is a pimp pandering to people who blame their failures on "the rich"

    Buffett doesn't pay less than his secretary. He pays a higher tax on his earned income than she does

    anyone who believes that idiocy is really gullible
    It's my understanding that Buffet only has a salary of $100k/yr, and that he pays no taxes on his investments as he has yet to realize any capital gains because he has never sold a share of BH. Berkshire Hathaway does not issue dividends, so there would be no taxable income, other than for his salary.

    It's entirely possible that he pays his secretary more than $100k/yr, so he might very well pay a lower effective tax rate, even if we don't include his unrealized capital gains.

    But I may have this wrong.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no but we tire of the pandering that only guarantees more government when pimps like Obama tell the masses they can have more and more paid for by less and less voters
    But Turtle it is your duty to pay for my college, healthcare, and my new BMW.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

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    But Turtle it is your duty to pay for my college, healthcare, and my new BMW.
    Wow. You have healthcare? Rush said that once the employer mandate started no one would have healthcare.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Wow. You have healthcare? Rush said that once the employer mandate started no one would have healthcare.
    I do not have health ins. I do have VA access for being a Vet. I refused to use the State Exchange since 1. Know one in the state accepts those plans and 2. Not the government to mandate me to have health coverage.

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