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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Yet if the budget would have gone down during a Romney Presidency the same way, you would be giving Romney the credit.
    So once again, you've entered the BIL Zone .
    We will never know, now will we. If Romney proposed a budget that was cut and he took credit for the reduced deficit, yes I would say the same thing I said about Obama. You have no idea what you are talking about and are trying to defend the indefensible all because Obama has a D after his name and the unions made you do it. I grew up a JFK Democrat but that party left me. the party of Pelosi, Reid, and Obama suit you

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, and Congress cut the Obama budget and that Congress had a GOP House. Obama didn't cut the deficit in half, Congress did and that deficit is still at record highs and still added to the Obama deficits
    What has Congress done to stop the DOD from stealing trillions of taxpayer dollars and violating federal law with impunity?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    What has Congress done to stop the DOD from stealing trillions of taxpayer dollars and violating federal law with impunity?
    The Senate oversight committee is responsible for overseeing the defense department and that has been under Democrat control since 2007, why don't you ask them? Interesting how now it is trillions when it started out as hundreds of billions.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The Senate oversight committee is responsible for overseeing the defense department and that has been under Democrat control since 2007, why don't you ask them? Interesting how now it is trillions when it started out as hundreds of billions.
    Maybe you weren't paying attention. Its hundreds of billions annually. $8.5 trillion was disappeared by the felons running the DOD between 1996-2012. The Senate Armed Services committee was in Republican hands for 10 of those years and they are in control of that committee now. What excuse will you use for their failure this time?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Maybe you weren't paying attention. Its hundreds of billions annually. $8.5 trillion was disappeared by the felons running the DOD between 1996-2012. The Senate Armed Services committee was in Republican hands for 10 of those years and they are in control of that committee now. What excuse will you use for their failure this time?
    at least defense is a legitimate government function. most of the income redistribution programs are essentially unconstitutional



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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Maybe you weren't paying attention. Its hundreds of billions annually. $8.5 trillion was disappeared by the felons running the DOD between 1996-2012. The Senate Armed Services committee was in Republican hands for 10 of those years and they are in control of that committee now. What excuse will you use for their failure this time?
    Don't know when the elections were in your area but the Republicans took control of the Senate the first of this month and unless Tom Daschle was a Republican they had control of the Senate in 2001-2003 so it looks to me out of the 18 years that you claim this has been going on half of the time Democrats were in control of the Senate

    1 Majority and Minority Leaders, includes complete list

    So I guess the excuse I would make is to point out that once again you have no idea what you are talking about

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Don't know when the elections were in your area but the Republicans took control of the Senate the first of this month and unless Tom Daschle was a Republican they had control of the Senate in 2001-2003 so it looks to me out of the 18 years that you claim this has been going on half of the time Democrats were in control of the Senate

    1 Majority and Minority Leaders, includes complete list

    So I guess the excuse I would make is to point out that once again you have no idea what you are talking about

    I guess you don't know much about committees. The committee was chaired by Strom Thurmond (Republican) between 1995-1999, John Warner (Republican) between 1999-2001 and again between 2003-2007. Don't try to absolve the Republicans of their responsibility for allowing this to happen. Republicans were in control of that committee for 10 of the years covered by the timeframe I noted (1996-2012). John McCain is the chairman now so I'll be interested in how you try to justify inaction moving forward. And by the way, this isn't a "claim"; its a widely publicized fact. Like I said, I don't believe anyone, Republican or Democrat, has the spine to address this problem and prosecute the felons responsible...even the world's most famous POW.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    at least defense is a legitimate government function. most of the income redistribution programs are essentially unconstitutional
    Um, that isn't defense. It is stealing trillions in tax payer dollars over a period of 16 years and falsifying financial records in an effort to hide it. People in the private sector do hard time in federal prison for that.
    Last edited by Napoleon; 01-22-15 at 12:06 AM.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    I guess you don't know much about committees. The committee was chaired by Strom Thurmond (Republican) between 1995-1999, John Warner (Republican) between 1999-2001 and again between 2003-2007. Don't try to absolve the Republicans of their responsibility for allowing this to happen. Republicans were in control of that committee for 10 of the years covered by the timeframe I noted (1996-2012). John McCain is the chairman now so I'll be interested in how you try to justify inaction moving forward. And by the way, this isn't a "claim"; its a widely publicized fact. Like I said, I don't believe anyone, Republican or Democrat, has the spine to address this problem and prosecute the felons responsible...even the world's most famous POW.



    Um, that isn't defense. It is stealing trillions in tax payer dollars over a period of 16 years and falsifying financial records in an effort to hide it. People in the private sector do hard time in federal prison for that.
    I don't absolve anyone from responsibility including Republicans but again you are diverting from the reality that Obama has been in charge for 6 years, proposed a 3.9 trillion dollar budget of which 800 billion is for the military. Doesn't seem to be a priority for him either

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    at least defense is a legitimate government function. most of the income redistribution programs are essentially unconstitutional
    Lolol

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Nope. Borrowing is not an issue.
    Then why ask for more tax revenue? He would be more popular with taxpayers if he didn't.

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