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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, liberalism and socialists don't like incentive and the private sector at all. There is a reason that the United States has the greatest economy in the world that Obama is trying to change. it is the private sector not big govt. and wealth redistribution
    No we havent. Despite all the rhetoric from the Obama White House, we have kept the same system. Keep taxes low, prioritize big business, stimulate the private sector, and provide special incentives to big business.


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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Benefitting the vast majority who spend ALL or nearly all their income in the economy helps consumer spending far more than coddling the 1% who spend a small % of their incomes. Taxing income NOT spent at a higher rate is the best way to boost growth. Taxing high income earners more does not change their spending habits only their deposits in hedge funds.
    I have to ask you when did you develop this hatred for anyone who has more than you? Did you start at a young age? Were you never taught the value of hard work and making something of yourself so that you can be in position to truly help your neighbor? When did you start believing that it was the government's role to do that and that earning more money was a detriment to providing help to those truly in need?

    Your hatred of the private sector is misguided. It was the private sector that gave you the freedom you have today to make a total fool of yourself and demonize the system that made this the economic powerhouse of the world. I sure benefited from it and get tired of hearing the bs coming from people like you. I probably donate more to charity than you make in a year and do more good with that investment than the dollars you want sent to the federal bureaucrats to spend it for me. Keep buying the liberal rhetoric and ignoring the liberal results.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    How am I supposed to guess what you think the role of the federal government should be? Just tell me what you're getting at.
    Read the Constitution and then maybe you might get it.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Benefitting the vast majority who spend ALL or nearly all their income in the economy helps consumer spending far more than coddling the 1% who spend a small % of their incomes. Taxing income NOT spent at a higher rate is the best way to boost growth. Taxing high income earners more does not change their spending habits only their deposits in hedge funds.
    socialists think that the wealth of those who earn it should be confiscated to buy votes for the scumbags socialists want in office. Taxing high income earners changes the behavior of the parasites as they become more and more dependent on government handouts and more and more receptive to leftwing pandering



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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    We have already seen the choices the 1% made when we lowered their taxes. Outsource or keep our employee wages low so we can sock more money away for ourselves. Now that the tax rates are so reasonable, why share the prosperity with others? Raise them back and they might make a different choice. It's amazing how generous people can become with money when their choice is either share it with their employees or give it to the Govt.
    What a bunch of bull****, the Rich aren't the problem liberal bureaucrats are as are the people that support them. You make up this bs based upon what you are told with no specifics to support your contention. There aren't enough that outsource or keep wages low to make a difference but that doesn't stop you from making the claim and hurting the vast majority in this to make a living for their family. Rather sad to see people like you spouting rhetoric not backed by any facts.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Read the Constitution and then maybe you might get it.
    I'd support a new constitutional convention, so that's not really a huge concern for me.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What a bunch of bull****, the Rich aren't the problem liberal bureaucrats are as are the people that support them. You make up this bs based upon what you are told with no specifics to support your contention. There aren't enough that outsource or keep wages low to make a difference but that doesn't stop you from making the claim and hurting the vast majority in this to make a living for their family. Rather sad to see people like you spouting rhetoric not backed by any facts.

    people like him believe the government owns all the wealth



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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    I don't see a reason why the two should be treated differently under the taxation system.
    Ok, so government should not encourage risk investing. I have to ask: have you ever signed the front of a paycheck?
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Ok, so government should not encourage risk investing. I have to ask: have you ever signed the front of a paycheck?
    socialists whine about investment income being taxed less than earned income but what they really don' like is that the wealthy aren't screwed over as much

    socialists really don't believe in even taxation but rather they think the progressive structure of earned income should apply to all taxation

    its a idiotic argument which assumes the progressive structure created by the income tax law is "proper" and other tax structures also created by laws with the same validity as the Income tax law-are "improper



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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I have to ask you when did you develop this hatred for anyone who has more than you? Did you start at a young age? Were you never taught the value of hard work and making something of yourself so that you can be in position to truly help your neighbor? When did you start believing that it was the government's role to do that and that earning more money was a detriment to providing help to those truly in need?

    Your hatred of the private sector is misguided. It was the private sector that gave you the freedom you have today to make a total fool of yourself and demonize the system that made this the economic powerhouse of the world. I sure benefited from it and get tired of hearing the bs coming from people like you. I probably donate more to charity than you make in a year and do more good with that investment than the dollars you want sent to the federal bureaucrats to spend it for me. Keep buying the liberal rhetoric and ignoring the liberal results.
    I don't blame the wealthy they don't know any better but the income inequality spiral cannot continue indefinitely without bringing down all of us in a painful way. Now that Republican are also talking about the income gap I would have thought you would be less of a prick about looking at ways to at least moderate the trend. I do understand that you want to protect that nest you have been feathering but doing nothing will endanger it too.



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