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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Getting a job and working is not part of trickle down economics....

    But hey, let me know when its gonna trickle down..
    Therein lies the problem you are waiting for trickle down instead of taking the opportunities you have and making the best out of them including the education you are receiving on the job to better yourself long term. I was looking for a job when I found the one I had, The experience I gained was invaluable and made me extremely marketable.

    Yes, having a job is part of trickle down but people like you waiting for something to happen are going to wake up one day and wonder what happened. you love posting charts showing growth in upper income. Who are those people, where did Bill Gates start? How about Steve Jobs? How about Mark Zuckerberg? A faceless graph tells me nothing including who those people are making those wages and what they did to earn them. You on the other hand seem to be waiting and waiting for something good to happen to you.

    Your job was created by someone who hired you to work for them, that is trickle down. What you do with that education and experience is up to you and no one else.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

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    Therein lies the problem you are waiting for trickle down instead of taking the opportunities you have and making the best out of them including the education you are receiving on the job to better yourself long term. I was looking for a job when I found the one I had, The experience I gained was invaluable and made me extremely marketable.

    Yes, having a job is part of trickle down but people like you waiting for something to happen are going to wake up one day and wonder what happened. you love posting charts showing growth in upper income. Who are those people, where did Bill Gates start? How about Steve Jobs? How about Mark Zuckerberg? A faceless graph tells me nothing including who those people are making those wages and what they did to earn them. You on the other hand seem to be waiting and waiting for something good to happen to you.

    Your job was created by someone who hired you to work for them, that is trickle down. What you do with that education and experience is up to you and no one else.
    I thought if the rich got more and more money they would spend it more... Turns out they dont. Just reinvest and save it.


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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I thought if the rich got more and more money they would spend it more... Turns out they dont. Just reinvest and save it.
    yep they reinvest it either back into their business or other businesses which in turn hire more people.
    if you want to be rich.
    save more invest more and only buy what you need.

    maybe if more people spent time improving themselves instead of complaining what other people have you would be further along.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I thought if the rich got more and more money they would spend it more... Turns out they dont. Just reinvest and save it.
    They do, they invest it, they hire people, they grow their businesses, and yes, the buy things. You don't think investment is trickle down? Where do you think your job came from?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    How is that an example of "propaganda" from Obama?
    This too is a political move, let's face it $320 billion over ten years is peanuts. It's not going to affect anything without cost cutting. Historically, governments who increase taxes and don't cut costs, or at least politicians salaries tend to get fired. Which is the point here.
    I do hope there will soon be a day when you actually read and understand posts.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I do hope there will soon be a day when you actually read and understand posts.
    You didn't answer the question.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yep they reinvest it either back into their business or other businesses which in turn hire more people.
    if you want to be rich.
    save more invest more and only buy what you need.

    maybe if more people spent time improving themselves instead of complaining what other people have you would be further along.
    Really? They do!? They "hire more people"? Just because a company is making more money does not mean they hire more people. If that was true during the "recession" the wealth of the top grew expentionally. By your logic, they should of reinvested that and created more jobs ... The trickle down effect does not work due to the fact it makes the rich richer and the poor poorer, it only increases the gap between the two classes.

    Tax cuts do not guarantee growth either


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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    They do, they invest it, they hire people, they grow their businesses, and yes, the buy things. You don't think investment is trickle down? Where do you think your job came from?
    They do? Man I must of missed that massive amount of jobs that were created in the last couple years. I mean the top economic tiers wealth has been growing at an incredibly fast rate, we should be drowning in all these jobs they create by reinvesting their wealth!


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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Really? They do!? They "hire more people"? Just because a company is making more money does not mean they hire more people. If that was true during the "recession" the wealth of the top grew expentionally. By your logic, they should of reinvested that and created more jobs ... The trickle down effect does not work due to the fact it makes the rich richer and the poor poorer, it only increases the gap between the two classes.

    Tax cuts do not guarantee growth either
    Keep posting those faceless charts that mean absolutely nothing for people make up those charts and it is people who spend money and make the decisions on what to spend and where depending on the incentive to do so. Socialists don't understand individual exceptionalism and are frustrated with anyone who has more than they do and think that isn't fair. You didn't answer my question as to where Bill Gates started from, Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg. Why not?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    They do? Man I must of missed that massive amount of jobs that were created in the last couple years. I mean the top economic tiers wealth has been growing at an incredibly fast rate, we should be drowning in all these jobs they create by reinvesting their wealth!
    No, you just bought the Obama rhetoric and believe govt. is the answer. Govt. hasn't provided the incentive for businesses to grow and create jobs but then again I have seen you don't understand incentive, even your own. "Your" President and your economic model are disasters and the problems seems to be you can never accept responsibility for your own failures.

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