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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Umm. I think you missed the part about the person writing the check was a client, but thanks for the sentiment.

    The tax resulted from the death of my wife's client. It was a tax on his estate. The tax was not levied until he died. That's called a death tax.

    I understand the greedy confiscation, shut up and be happy thing, envy does that to people who can't dream big enough.
    No, it was levied when his wealth was transferred.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    No, it was levied when his wealth was transferred.
    Yes, it was levied as a result of his death. Alive and kicking = No tax Horizontal and blue in the face = Pay up. That's called a Death Tax.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The BLS also says that California leads the Nation in poverty rates.

    got a citation for that claim?

    http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/pover...2013/state.xls
    this cite says you're 100% full of BS

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes, it was levied as a result of his death. Alive and kicking = No tax Horizontal and blue in the face = Pay up. That's called a Death Tax.
    dead and no wealth transfer. no "tax"

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    uh, I just did.
    No you linked to a DOE Page that specifically discusses regulatory justifications for recieving a Government LOAN

    Are welfare recipients forced to repay the Government ?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I think you should do something about your confusion over the meaning of death tax. I'm sure you don't want to look like a fool with your current one.
    Do you know why the right uses the term DEATH TAX?

    this from the wikipedia article on inheritance taxes

    Well-known Republican pollster Frank Luntz wrote that the term "death tax" "kindled voter resentment in a way that 'inheritance tax' and 'estate tax' do not"
    It is a political term used for political reasons to further a political agenda.

    There is no death tax. The tax is on money going to a person who did not have that money before.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No you linked to a DOE Page that specifically discusses regulatory justifications for recieving a Government LOAN

    Are welfare recipients forced to repay the Government ?
    don't get pouty--- YOU called it cronyism (which is another word for politico-corporate welfare corruption)

    are businesses that failed under the loan program repaying the government? LMAO

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Do you know why the right uses the term DEATH TAX?

    this from the wikipedia article on inheritance taxes



    It is a political term used for political reasons to further a political agenda.

    There is no death tax. The tax is on money going to a person who did not have that money before.
    yet the taxes on that money has already been paid.
    so yes it is a death tax. it is a penalty for dying and leaving what you have to your kids.

    it is what most parents work to save for so that later on their kids can boost and use that to generate their own wealth.
    I don't see why money that has already had taxes levied against it should continue to be taxed again and again and again.

    nothing but government theft.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    dead and no wealth transfer. no "tax"
    Impossible.

    Dead and no wealth transfer leads to confiscation of estate by state if there are no identifiable beneficiaries = Ultimate Death Tax

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes, it was levied as a result of his death. Alive and kicking = No tax Horizontal and blue in the face = Pay up. That's called a Death Tax.
    But if he chose to give it all to charity the Govt. would not take one dime. It is the transfering of wealth (over a million dollars) to another party that requires that other party to pay taxes on his inheritance. Dead people don't owe anything to anybody.

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