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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Do you think welfare recipients are incapable of inventing something that would require a patent or trademark?
    I think that Elvis never wrote a single one of his hits, but still his estate makes money every time someone sings Suspicious Minds

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    have you ever hired a patent attorney?
    Have you ever invented anything?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Have you ever invented anything?

    I in fact do so routinely.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    What have I made up? DO you think a lot of welfare recipients hold patents and trademarks that keep other people from being able to sell crack or weed now do you?
    Look, despite all this diversion, the undeniable truth is that the people the turd in chief wants to tax more are already paying more taxes than what they get from the government and the vast majority of voters pay less in federal taxes than what they get

    Liberal tax hikers try to pretend that the rich are getting far more than they pay in order to justify tax hikes rather than being truthful

    truth would be saying

    We want to tax the rich more to buy the votes of the masses

    if VOTES were based on tax payments, the Democrats' scheme of a progressive tax would have never been created

    progressive taxes are wet dreams for politicians because they can buy the votes of the many by merely increasing the top rates on the few



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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    A tax increase on the "wealthy" does not benefit the middle class. ...
    It does if there is a corresponding tax decrease on the middle class.
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    ...I'm not interested in debating someone who is trolling for an argument....
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Do you think welfare recipients are incapable of inventing something that would require a patent or trademark?
    Nope.

    But when they do, they will also pay higher taxes, assuming that they make big bucks for their invention, so all is fair.

    What amazes me is that so many conservatives will use the argument that everyone has an equal opportunity to get rich. Then they complain that it's not fair that the rich pay more in taxes. I dunno whats not fair about it when everyone has a shot of getting rich.

    No one forces the rich to pay more in taxes, they can just chose to not be rich.
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    ...I'm not interested in debating someone who is trolling for an argument....
    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    It does if there is a corresponding tax decrease on the middle class.
    Obama already increased Taxes on the Rich.

    Capital Gains and dividends taxes were raised under Obama Care. It doesn't make the Middleclass richer, it makes the Governmentr richer.

    He also targeted the Middle classes discretionary income through ObamaCare cost increases.

    If he actually gave a crap about the Middleclass he would have never signed that law.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Which is why we need to eliminate capital gains taxes and simply have the money declared as income and tax it according to the normal schedules. They should do the exact same thing with transfers of wealth also from one person to another. No estate tax or inheritance taxes - just consider it all as income and tax it according to the normal schedules.
    Well inheritance isn't really the same as income, IMO. Since the former owner of the wealth is deceased, I have no problem taxing it at a higher rate.
    Social democrat is no longer an accurate description of my views.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address | Fox News

    Let's here it Obama supporters how does taxing the rich benefit the U.S. economy and how much money is going to be generated to fund the liberal spending appetite?

    Class warfare is never going to solve the problems we face in this country and what ever happened to incentive to create more upper class individuals? Growing up I always strove to generate enough money to pay for a family that I hoped to have and fund charities that I want to support. My education process taught me the value of hard work and the desire to succeed. What happened to that philosophy in today's world? Why is it the Federal Government's role to tell the private sector where to spend its own money and on what?
    What's so un-american about reducing corporate welfare checks?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Well inheritance isn't really the same as income, IMO. Since the former owner of the wealth is deceased, I have no problem taxing it at a higher rate.
    The best is most of the people who clamor for "end double taxation! no estate/inheritance taxes! rahhh" are usually the ones who say in the next paragraph of a copy pasta forum troll spectacular that "people who are
    wealthy all worked hard to be so"

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