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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    No, it must be conservatives who rubbed off on me. Remember, liberals don't care about the budget deficit.
    Still no answer to the question, why does keeping more of what you earn mean an expense to the Federal Govt?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Because people elected representatives and senators on platforms to enact or keep those programs?



    PS, got any "proof" of your persistent 35 year crusade against fed spending at 20% of GDP?
    Just responding to a poster here who made that claim, we currently have a 17.4 trillion dollar economy which would mean a 3.5 trillion dollar Budget, Obama's will be 3.9 trillion

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    The apparently you are unaware of what the current deficit is despite all your blather. Cutting half of the military budget and then adding $200B create a budget surplus. Very rich considering you were being a jerk acting like I am the one who knows nothing of the federal budget and spending.
    Cutting half the military would make China and Russia the strongest in the world, guess that doesn't bother you but you still don't get it and never will, cutting the military in half, cutting Transportation will do nothing about the 18.2 trillion dollar debt

    I am responding to your posts and it is obvious to me that you have no idea what you are talking about.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Cutting half the military would make China and Russia the strongest in the world, guess that doesn't bother you but you still don't get it and never will, cutting the military in half, cutting Transportation will do nothing about the 18.2 trillion dollar debt

    I am responding to your posts and it is obvious to me that you have no idea what you are talking about.
    says the guy who just conflated debts and deficits?

    Wow.
    Bold strategy, Cotton.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    In the liberal world there never is enough govt. enough taxes and enough money to social engineer
    The new taxes are designed to make sure that everybody pays their fair share and that loopholes become a thing of the past.

    How much are the wars in the Middle east costing US, along with all of those defense contracts, and since the 1% have all of the loopholes and dodges, who do you think is payin for it?

    "Liberals". You don't have a clue dude, so you follow your leader.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I guess the reason that the status quo is the status quo is because we made it like it is because we desire it to be like it is. Status quo isn't necessarily a bad thing, at least when it's a good thing.

    Sometimes I get accused of being a class warrior, but that really befuddles me because I'm not a radical at all. Our income distribution system isn't terribly out of whack with the system we have (mostly because we DO have a progressive income tax system), and all I desire to do is to fine tune it to the point that all income classes grow in income at more or less the same rate, like they did in the "good ole days".
    I think you're over estimating our influence. You look at it realistically and we're only given status quo candidates to choose from -- not really a choice.

    I don't know about the distribution system not being out of whack, what, with the report just out that half the world's wealth is held by the 1%?

    I mean, I'm not crying too loud I'll admit I'm in the top 20%, but for me to break into the top 10 or 5% is near impossible compared to the lower classes being able to move up to the top 25% or 20%. It is the policies of the status quo which make this impossibility happen.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Of course not but the question remains why is it the Federal Government's responsibility to pay 20% of our GDP for the bloated Federal Govt? Why is SS and Medicare on budget in the first place?
    So what percent of our GDP should government be? If we subtracted SS and Medicare, I think it would be something in the range of 10%.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    The new taxes are designed to make sure that everybody pays their fair share and that loopholes become a thing of the past.

    How much are the wars in the Middle east costing US, along with all of those defense contracts, and since the 1% have all of the loopholes and dodges, who do you think is payin for it?

    "Liberals". You don't have a clue dude, so you follow your leader.
    I thought we put balance back into the tax code by raising income taxes on the wealthy back to 39.6% and by putting additional incomes taxes on them into the ACA.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    The apparently you are unaware of what the current deficit is despite all your blather. Cutting half of the military budget and then adding $200B create a budget surplus. Very rich considering you were being a jerk acting like I am the one who knows nothing of the federal budget and spending.
    Cutting half the military would make China and Russia the strongest in the world, guess that doesn't bother you but you still don't get it and never will, cutting the military in half, cutting Transportation will do nothing about the 18.2 trillion dollar debt

    I am responding to your posts and it is obvious to me that you have no idea what you are talking about.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    The new taxes are designed to make sure that everybody pays their fair share and that loopholes become a thing of the past.

    How much are the wars in the Middle east costing US, along with all of those defense contracts, and since the 1% have all of the loopholes and dodges, who do you think is payin for it?

    "Liberals". You don't have a clue dude, so you follow your leader.
    LOL, fair share? Who defines what is a fair share for you to pay? Liberals love talking fairness as long as someone else pays for it. The military is the only sole responsibility of the Federal Govt and has given you the right to make a fool of yourself by saying what you want to say when you want to say it. I would say that is a pretty good return on investment

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