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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    That's absolutely true.

    But where I get frustrated with Obummer is that he isn't offering middle class tax cuts. If he would have proposed a combo deal, like cutting the bottom three tax rate and "paying for it" by increasing capital gains or other taxes that tend to hit the rich harder, I would have been more supportive.
    Wow, has liberalism done a number on you, why do tax cuts have to be paid for? Do you believe you keeping more of what you earn is an expense to the govt? What kind of accounting puts tax cuts as an expense?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryOfromCA View Post
    The only poll that really counts is the election. We won. We took Congress. THAT'S the present.

    Case closed.
    And Romney is POTUS? Wow, I mustuv missed sompin.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Is the dollar worth today what it was in 1965?

    And did we have as many retirees in 1965 as we do today? I may be wrong, but I suspect that most of the growth in government spending since then, in terms of percent of GDP, has been in SS and Medicare. So do you think that we should screw our old folks?

    Of course not but the question remains why is it the Federal Government's responsibility to pay 20% of our GDP for the bloated Federal Govt? Why is SS and Medicare on budget in the first place?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wow, has liberalism done a number on you, why do tax cuts have to be paid for? Do you believe you keeping more of what you earn is an expense to the govt? What kind of accounting puts tax cuts as an expense?
    No, it must be conservatives who rubbed off on me. Remember, liberals don't care about the budget deficit.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I certainly have but can you please explain with 50 states, and thousands of local communities why do we need the govt. to spend 20% of GDP most of it on social programs and debt service?
    Because people elected representatives and senators on platforms to enact or keep those programs?



    PS, got any "proof" of your persistent 35 year crusade against fed spending at 20% of GDP?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Easiest way to boost revenues is to widen the tax base through a simplification of the tax code.

    Unfortunately, Obama is more interested in wedge issues than actually boosting revenues.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    (chuckle)

    "Class warfare"... When are you guys going to give up on the memes.

    The new taxes are long overdue and I look forward to their attention, however, just because Obama says he's gonna do it doesn't make it so.
    In the liberal world there never is enough govt. enough taxes and enough money to social engineer

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    had to dig this one back up. Too funny


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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wrong, the department of Transportation is much less than 200 billion dollars
    The apparently you are unaware of what the current deficit is despite all your blather. Cutting half of the military budget and then adding $200B create a budget surplus. Very rich considering you were being a jerk acting like I am the one who knows nothing of the federal budget and spending.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    instead of this political nonsense, reform the tax code so everyone gets what they want.
    I thought that was what I was proposing

    republicans can get their lower rates and dem's can get their special tax cuts and breaks for lower income people.
    everyone should be happy.
    I really don't know that dems care so much about special tax breaks for the poor. Remember, the poor don't pay taxes anyhow.
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