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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    bit of shame that socialists hate investment and think it sholud be doubly taxed
    Socialism by definition is public ownership of the means of production. Whatever this debate is about, it's not that.

    everyone should pay the same rate
    Under a flat income tax or a sales tax? There is a huge difference between the two. Also, I think it's noteworthy that you think "everyone should pay the same rate" but people who people who profit off of capital gains are somehow exempt from that.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Do you make any distinction between short and long term capital gains or do you just want to collect more money?
    I don't see a reason why the two should be treated differently under the taxation system.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address
    Of course he will. That's all the dumb ignorant socialist knows how to do, tax and spend ...... and kiss Iran's butt in his spare time.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    I don't see a reason why the two should be treated differently under the taxation system.
    You must not have a 401K.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    It's not about "penalizing risk taking." People who actually work for their income are punished under the current taxation system because they have a higher tax rate than those who pay capital gains tax.
    Do you have any idea where those jobs came from? You really don't understand investment and risk taking, do you? Do you even consider that people investing their own money are taking a risk with many of them losing that investment? You see fat cats, I see opportunities for growth and job creation. Is it any wonder that liberalism, socialism, Marxism are failures and complete economic disasters?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    I don't see a reason why the two should be treated differently under the taxation system.
    The issue continues to be you support more money going to the Federal govt. and I don't. Until the Federal Govt. reigns in the spending I am against higher taxes on anyone and stop penalizing risk taking.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Raising taxes should of been done a long time ago.
    Of course, we all know that the govt. needs the money more than the people who earned it in the first place, right?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you have any idea where those jobs came from? You really don't understand investment and risk taking, do you? Do you even consider that people investing their own money are taking a risk with many of them losing that investment? You see fat cats, I see opportunities for growth and job creation.
    And a lower capital gains tax is going to create jobs how exactly?

    Is it any wonder that liberalism, socialism, Marxism are failures and complete economic disasters?
    Given that what you are arguing for is precisely economic liberalism, I'm curious as to why you've included liberalism in this list.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The issue continues to be you support more money going to the Federal govt. and I don't. Until the Federal Govt. reigns in the spending I am against higher taxes on anyone and stop penalizing risk taking.
    Viewing "government spending" as one entity when there are so many good and bad aspects as to what the federal government does seems like quite an oversimplification of the situation.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Democrats never met a tax they didn't like.

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