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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Only in your mind has federal spending decreased under Obama.

    US Federal Spending by Year - Charts Tables History

    Liberals live in a fantasy world

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Only in your mind has federal spending decreased under Obama.

    US Federal Spending by Year - Charts Tables History

    funny that you bolded about 30% of my claim and ignored the rest. Why would that be?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    things I learned in this thread


    46% of Americans are "die hard pinkos"
    No, not at all, and I don't think that was what he was suggesting. As a matter of fact, Papa Bull said that he doesn't think the "die hard pinkos" like Obama too much, so that would mean that the 46% who he is polling OK with are pretty much in the middle (although I suspect that Papa Bull doesn't want that fact pointed out).
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Obama's and Boehners negotiating style is similar. They make a nice couple.

    Both are willing to create the appearance that they are pushing for what the extremists desire (more or less pretending to be puppets to appease the extremists), and both are smart enough to realize that the controlling parties will not ultimately allow any extremist positions to actually become policy. So once their pretend efforts failed, they are able to get more or less what they really wanted to begin with.

    An example of Obama doing this is when he was proposing that we don't extend the Bush tax cuts for the top two income brackets, then he settled with not extending the cuts for just the top bracket. An example of Boenher doing this is when he spearheaded the government shut down a couple of years ago, and then as the republican party was getting the blame for the shutdown, he said "OK, we fought the good fight, it's not working, so we give".

    At least that's the way I see things.
    Well, I agree for the most part with the exception of not seeing people of principle having a backbone as extreme. (I say this for both sides)

    I think it is a mistake also to look at the middle as a compromise between the two "extremes" as you put it rather than a position of its own, fighting its own battle and unfortunately winning. It's called the status quo.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryOfromCA View Post
    2 months off but close enough. . . . . . .


    Gallup: Voter opposition to Obama at 16-year high, worse than Bush, Clinton
    Gallup: Voter opposition to Obama at 16-year high, worse than Bush, Clinton | WashingtonExaminer.com

    Angry and frustrated voters are planning to use the midterm elections in one month to tell President Obama they oppose his agenda, the highest “no” vote percentage Gallup has measured in the past 16 years.

    The polling outfit found that 32 percent of voters want to send a message of opposition with their vote, compared to just 20 percent who are sending a signal of support.

    That is 13 points higher than in 1998 when former President Clinton was headed to impeachment for lying about his sex affair with a former White House intern and even a smidge higher — 2 points — than in 2008, when Americans were tired of President Bush’s military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.



    funny thing. the topic was about the present . what IS he polling at NOW?

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Absolutely. But extremists are a small segment of our electorate, and they vote for their team even when their team disappoints them. That's why we often mistakenly refer to extremists as "the base".
    The left seem to have a lot of extremists. Just sayin'.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    If we want to start paying down debt without re-crashing the economy, we need a balanced approach of tax increases and spending cuts across the board. Avoid hitting any one area too hard.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    The left seem to have a lot of extremists. Just sayin'.
    Funny, we think that about you guys.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull
    The left seem to have a lot of extremists. Just sayin'.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Funny, we think that about you guys.
    That's because your extremists.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryOfromCA View Post
    2 months off but close enough. . . . . . .

    Gallup: Voter opposition to Obama at 16-year high, worse than Bush, Clinton
    Gallup: Voter opposition to Obama at 16-year high, worse than Bush, Clinton | WashingtonExaminer.com

    Angry and frustrated voters are planning to use the midterm elections in one month to tell President Obama they oppose his agenda, the highest “no” vote percentage Gallup has measured in the past 16 years.

    The polling outfit found that 32 percent of voters want to send a message of opposition with their vote, compared to just 20 percent who are sending a signal of support.

    That is 13 points higher than in 1998 when former President Clinton was headed to impeachment for lying about his sex affair with a former White House intern and even a smidge higher — 2 points — than in 2008, when Americans were tired of President Bush’s military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    funny thing. the topic was about the present . what IS he polling at NOW?

    The only poll that really counts is the election. We won. We took Congress. THAT'S the present.

    Case closed.

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