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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryOfromCA View Post
    Many of today's rich were yesterday's middle class, and even poor. That's the part that liberals always leave out: Mobility.

    If a rich guy today was born into poverty, then God bless him, and let him enjoy the fruits of his success.

    Liberals are all about envy. Its very ugly.
    It sounds so good but alas even that part of the American dream is slipping from our grasp. 41% of the wealthy are children who had wealthy parents. Wealth begets wealth in our society and the very rich are the last people that need compounding, passive, unearned streams of income but they are the ones that have the most of it.
    Yet another reason that money should be taxed as income. It's not like they still won't be the very rich.


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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Taking from the top end to redistribute to the lower classes doesn't benefit anyone especially since it is the Govt. doing the redistribution. Too much waste, fraud, and abuse of our taxdollars to do any good and per Obama this tax on the rich will generate 32 billion dollars a year enough to run out govt. for a couple days and certainly a waste of money and effort. Let the rich spend their dollars, invest their dollars, save their dollars the way they want without govt. intervention. That is the American way where neighbor helps neighbor and nothing defines the Federal Govt. as that neighbor.
    We took it from the bottom and gave it to the top; no reason that reversing the process should be off the table.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes....because enjoying all that America offers should be free and paying back to a country that enables you to enjoy the way of life we do should not be necessary......
    I didn't say free-there is a bare minimum of taxation needed to legitimate purposes (roads, military, etc).
    Note this does not include failed lefty "programs" that never deliver.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    And yet they think that is "greedy"..



    Ever stop to think make not that we are taxing to little but spending and offering too much?

    Plus who is giving out billions in benefits to illegals? Yet refuses to secure the border?
    Right. Taking from everyone by force=not greedy. Wanting everyone to keep what they earn=greedy.
    More lefty logic.

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes....because enjoying all that America offers should be free and paying back to a country that enables you to enjoy the way of life we do should not be necessary......
    you seem to think people who work hard, save and invest somehow have a duty to pay far more than what they get, while others should have their government services subsidized by people like me

    I pay over 400K in income taxes. that is more income taxes than millions upon millions of Americans will ever pay collectively in their life time. what benefits do I get that they do not?



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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    We took it from the bottom and gave it to the top; no reason that reversing the process should be off the table.
    where do you come up with this crap? then top 1% pay more income taxes in a year than the bottom 25% will pay in a century



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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    A quick question to these whom support additional income taxes levied...

    How does removing more money from the economy benefit anyone?..be as specific as possible in answering

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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    It sounds so good but alas even that part of the American dream is slipping from our grasp. 41% of the wealthy are children who had wealthy parents. Wealth begets wealth in our society and the very rich are the last people that need compounding, passive, unearned streams of income but they are the ones that have the most of it.
    Yet another reason that money should be taxed as income. It's not like they still won't be the very rich.

    People who spew the crap you spew are why I advocate people be well armed. Your attitude is that the wealth of other should be confiscated or stolen because those people don't "need" what they have. You basically advocate government imposed theft and looting

    its like saying because you don't work hard enough to have a car-anyone who owns 2-3 cars should have one taken from them because they "don't need three cars" and you need one

    that sort of attitude is disgusting IMHO and is nothing more than parasitic nonsense

    if you NEED something you ought to work hard enough to BUY it rather than demand someone smarter, more industrious, talented OR YES Luckier than you are give it to you



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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryOfromCA View Post
    Many of today's rich were yesterday's middle class, and even poor. That's the part that liberals always leave out: Mobility.

    If a rich guy today was born into poverty, then God bless him, and let him enjoy the fruits of his success.

    Liberals are all about envy. Its very ugly.
    LOL.....that is a myth that has been sold to the middle and working classes in order to get them to work hard so that the upper classes can continue to prosper. It is next to impossible for someone born into poverty to work their way up to the 1%. It is difficult enough for them to raise themselves out of poverty. Statistics just don't bear this out. You either are gullible enough to accept it or are just perpetuating the myth.
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    Re: Obama to call for new tax increases in State of the Union address

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL.....that is a myth that has been sold to the middle and working classes in order to get them to work hard so that the upper classes can continue to prosper. It is next to impossible for someone born into poverty to work their way up to the 1%. It is difficult enough for them to raise themselves out of poverty. Statistics just don't bear this out. You either are gullible enough to accept it or are just perpetuating the myth.
    and all I will note is so what

    I don't owe you anything merely because my family before me worked hard, saved, and invested wisely.



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