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    Re: Family Outraged After North Miami Beach Police Use Mug Shots as Shooting Targets

    I don't see a valid reason for doing this, but just for the sake of conversation let's say there is a valid reason. Or, at least let's say it doesn't hurt anything.

    What the hell kind of unaware moron doesn't know this won't go well if publicized? You're in a position of authority, and are supposed to be educated and responsible and better aware of the nuances of the world than the average schmuck, and it never occurs to you that this will not spin well should the media and the public find out? Seriously.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
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    Re: Family Outraged After North Miami Beach Police Use Mug Shots as Shooting Targets

    Unless I'm wrong, the same political mentality that I would typically identify as conservative are the same people (generally speaking) that most frequently shout the most about government tyranny. Yet these are also the same people who are quickest to defend police actions that create a picture of civilians as enemy of the state. I'm trying to reconcile these two ideas and am coming up short. Maybe there's some nuance I'm missing here.

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    Re: Family Outraged After North Miami Beach Police Use Mug Shots as Shooting Targets

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Unless I'm wrong, the same political mentality that I would typically identify as conservative are the same people (generally speaking) that most frequently shout the most about government tyranny. Yet these are also the same people who are quickest to defend police actions that create a picture of civilians as enemy of the state. I'm trying to reconcile these two ideas and am coming up short. Maybe there's some nuance I'm missing here.
    I couldn't argue against this point even if I wanted to.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Family Outraged After North Miami Beach Police Use Mug Shots as Shooting Targets

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Um, because their job may require them to shoot humans, or at least leftist facsimiles of humans. Possibly even some of the criminals in the photos they used. Makes sense to me. Know your target.

    They should also use pictures of well known socialist/liberals, I find it helpful during target practice. Hanoi Jane targets used to be a popular sale at gun ranges.
    Yes, I think shooting at 'human' targets by way of pictures is an old practice. I remember wearing for years a T shirt with Gaddafi's picture on it, overlaid with a crosshairs centered on him.

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    Re: Family Outraged After North Miami Beach Police Use Mug Shots as Shooting Targets

    Not sure with Miami Beach PD but many cops purchase rounds and targets themselves. Wager this started with the motivating factor being a cheap alternative to buying targets. The target was a printout from a normal printer (8.5 X 11). Likely just morphed into something stupid. Claiming this is some "desensitizing" conspiracy is just....stupid.

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    Re: Family Outraged After North Miami Beach Police Use Mug Shots as Shooting Targets

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Yeah, I'm totally cool with the police using pictures me of me as target practice. I think it's great.
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    Re: Family Outraged After North Miami Beach Police Use Mug Shots as Shooting Targets

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Not sure with Miami Beach PD but many cops purchase rounds and targets themselves. Wager this started with the motivating factor being a cheap alternative to buying targets. The target was a printout from a normal printer (8.5 X 11). Likely just morphed into something stupid. Claiming this is some "desensitizing" conspiracy is just....stupid.

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    Re: Family Outraged After North Miami Beach Police Use Mug Shots as Shooting Targets

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Training for head shots is a waste of taxpayer dollars and could provide impetus for unsafe shots.

    Center mass.
    How would it be any different if there were Bullseye's in the little boxes instead of mug shots? I think people are just looking for things to get outraged over....And let's not leave out the whole reason for this faux outrage seems to be to further the current hate rhetoric against Law Enforcement....This should be the poster for invented issues.
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    Re: Family Outraged After North Miami Beach Police Use Mug Shots as Shooting Targets

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How would it be any different if there were Bullseye's in the little boxes instead of mug shots? I think people are just looking for things to get outraged over....And let's not leave out the whole reason for this faux outrage seems to be to further the current hate rhetoric against Law Enforcement....This should be the poster for invented issues.
    It should be a silhouette. I'm not here to discuss other aspects of the event; merely that training other than silhouette center mass is a waste of taxpayer dollars and targets such as in the article may provide impetus to unsafe (for the officer) shots.

    Did the department save money? No. It wasted money on ineffective and even risk-creating training. Such a claim is clearly an excuse.

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    Re: Family Outraged After North Miami Beach Police Use Mug Shots as Shooting Targets

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It should be a silhouette.
    Why? At 300 yards let's say, what would be different between a silhouette, and this photocopy to the naked eye?

    I'm not here to discuss other aspects of the event
    Such as?

    merely that training other than silhouette center mass is a waste of taxpayer dollars
    Ok, so ordering silhouettes on the internet can cost as little as .10 cents per sheet, and running off copies in an office runs about .05 cents....So, no I'd say they were saving money.

    targets such as in the article may provide impetus to unsafe (for the officer) shots.
    What "impetus for unsafe shots" does this provide?

    Did the department save money? No. It wasted money on ineffective and even risk-creating training.
    Repeating your claim doesn't make it true no matter if you try and authoritatively answer your own question or not...Target practice does not create risk, it reduces it by making the shooter more proficient....
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