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Supreme Court to take up same sex marriage issues in April

Anthony60 said:
Only to libs can you be "on the wrong side of history" when your decision is 100% Constitutionally correct. Scalia is smarter than everyone else on the court combined, I think they she just let him make all the decisions. We would be so much better off.
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LOL....next to Thomas, Scalia is probably the biggest idiot there in on the court.
 
Anthony60 said:
The general consensus? That's how you get things wrong, instead of just making the right decision. More like the cowards way out. "Well, everyone else said it was okay." I think slavery worked like that.
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No they got it wrong because they let their personal beliefs and certain popular views of those times to decide their rulings, rather than the Constitution.
 
Anthony60 said:
Well, you've pretty much confirmed that you... Well, I don't have to write it for anyone that has a clue.
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Have you actually ever read one of Scalia's opinions? He writes the most convoluted opinions of anyone on the bench. Often I will get about a page into the opinion and say to myself...."This has to be Scalia"...then looking back to see who authored the opinion. 9 times out of 10...its Scalia. It is clear that he decides what he wants to decide and then goes through a whole convoluted diatribe explaining how he got there....so yes....Scalia probably is the biggest idiot on the court, next to Thomas.
 
disneydude said:
Have you actually ever read one of Scalia's opinions? He writes the most convoluted opinions of anyone on the bench. Often I will get about a page into the opinion and say to myself...."This has to be Scalia"...then looking back to see who authored the opinion. 9 times out of 10...its Scalia. It is clear that he decides what he wants to decide and then goes through a whole convoluted diatribe explaining how he got there....so yes....Scalia probably is the biggest idiot on the court, next to Thomas.
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That's just ridiculous. Could be the most ridiculous post in the history of these boards! But keep going, you don't really have any credibility left to lose anyway. Oh, what's next, Ruth Buzzy is brilliant? You did a pretty good description of her. Gee, I bet she hasn't pre decided the case, LOL!
 
Anthony60 said:
That's just ridiculous. Could be the most ridiculous post in the history of these boards! But keep going, you don't really have any credibility left to lose anyway. Oh, what's next, Ruth Buzzy is brilliant? You did a pretty good description of her. Gee, I bet she hasn't pre decided the case, LOL!
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Obviously you have never read one of Scalia's decisions. Carry on and come back when you have....until then it is pointless trying to have a conversation with you.
 
Anthony60 said:
That's just ridiculous. Could be the most ridiculous post in the history of these boards! But keep going, you don't really have any credibility left to lose anyway. Oh, what's next, Ruth Buzzy is brilliant? You did a pretty good description of her. Gee, I bet she hasn't pre decided the case, LOL!
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I decided to remove my prior comments as they could have seemed too personal.

Basically, you're wrong.
 
Anthony60 said:
That's just ridiculous. Could be the most ridiculous post in the history of these boards! But keep going, you don't really have any credibility left to lose anyway. Oh, what's next, Ruth Buzzy is brilliant? You did a pretty good description of her. Gee, I bet she hasn't pre decided the case, LOL!
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Let me guess....you are probably one of those who think that Thomas' silence and non-participation on the Court is a sign of his "Brilliance"....LOL..
 
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I hesitated on commenting on this because I didn't want to "out" someone who was very very close to the Supreme Court. But I found an article about Sally and her partner Betsy. Sally was Chief Justice Rehnquist and Roberts Chief of Staff for many years. At the time, she had a wife, and two adopted kids (she still does). Sally is one of the most brilliant thinkers I know, and a wonderful person, as is her partner.

When we talk about gay marriage, remember, the supreme court justices have friends that are gay. Sally once worked for Justice Thomas, and was beloved by all the Justices.

They saw first hand that someone that may not have their preferences in sexuality, or political bent can do their job, and do it well, and sexual orientation means nothing.

Anyway, I found this great article about her, and the Supreme Court. Give it a read.

Will acceptance of gays by high court influence rulings? | Reuters
 
beefheart said:
I hesitated on commenting on this because I didn't want to "out" someone who was very very close to the Supreme Court. But I found an article about Sally and her partner Betsy. Sally was Chief Justice Rehnquist and Roberts Chief of Staff for many years. At the time, she had a wife, and two adopted kids (she still does). Sally is one of the most brilliant thinkers I know, and a wonderful person, as is her partner.

When we talk about gay marriage, remember, the supreme court justices have friends that are gay. Sally once worked for Justice Thomas, and was beloved by all the Justices.

They saw first hand that someone that may not have their preferences in sexuality, or political bent can do their job, and do it well, and sexual orientation means nothing.

Anyway, I found this great article about her, and the Supreme Court. Give it a read.

Will acceptance of gays by high court influence rulings? | Reuters
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Well it would no more influence the rulings than not knowing anyone gay influenced the total lack of progress before walker v texas. Fair is fair i guess

Some may see it as bias, but the thing is, it's basically a microcosm of what's driven gay acceptance throughout the country. If a judge had to recuse themselves cause they know or worked with someone gay, there won't be many left, just monsters like scalia. It reminds me though of a few years back when judge Walker issued his ruling that had a great impact, but opponents just attacked his sexuality instead of consider that the opinion he wrote was absolutely correct. That's really all that matters, whether their arguments are legally and morally defensible
 
disneydude said:
Obviously you have never read one of Scalia's decisions. Carry on and come back when you have....until then it is pointless trying to have a conversation with you.
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Well, I don't need to defend myself here, Scalia is widely known as one of the intellectuals on the Court. So go ahead, prove that's he's not, prove that he's an idiot. I'll wait. Anyone trying that will likely prove that they are one instead. Let the comedy begin!
 
chromium said:
Well it would no more influence the rulings than not knowing anyone gay influenced the total lack of progress before walker v texas. Fair is fair i guess

Some may see it as bias, but the thing is, it's basically a microcosm of what's driven gay acceptance throughout the country. If a judge had to recuse themselves cause they know or worked with someone gay, there won't be many left, just monsters like scalia. It reminds me though of a few years back when judge Walker issued his ruling that had a great impact, but opponents just attacked his sexuality instead of consider that the opinion he wrote was absolutely correct. That's really all that matters, whether their arguments are legally and morally defensible
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She actually got along great with Scalia, a few years back, she had Kennedy and Scalia come speak at her college, and she enlisted my brother to take Scalia out dove hunting. Of course, he had to do a hell of a security check ahead of time. He said he was a really great guy.
 
Anthony60 said:
Well, I don't need to defend myself here, Scalia is widely known as one of the intellectuals on the Court. So go ahead, prove that's he's not, prove that he's an idiot. I'll wait. Anyone trying that will likely prove that they are one instead. Let the comedy begin!
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While it it a fact that in terms of knowledge, wit and overall intellect Scalia is very well endowed, it is also a fact that history is replete with brilliant people who have done the wrong thing. Scalia's bias is undeniable and irrefutable.
 
If the Supreme Court does the bang up job it did with health care, sexual perversion will pervade society. The next step they will be looking at whether child molesters should have equal rights. Next thing, people will be marrying their pets.
 
Anthony60 said:
Well, I don't need to defend myself here, Scalia is widely known as one of the intellectuals on the Court. So go ahead, prove that's he's not, prove that he's an idiot. I'll wait. Anyone trying that will likely prove that they are one instead. Let the comedy begin!
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Well, to start with, any Supreme Court justice who speaks so openly on issues that will be coming in front of him/her later is an idiot. Scalia with his speeches has obviously prejudged this and other cases. Other justices may have prejudged, but they have the sense to keep their mouths shut.

I am sure you don't like Bill Maher, but some good points here -
Maher: Bachmann and Scalia are ‘the exact same idiot’

ome people call Bachmann a “loon,” Maher said, while considering Scalia a serious legal mind, but their views are the same mishmash of talk radio paranoia and fundamentalist Christian theology.

“New Rule,” Maher said, “I know we can’t establish a religious test for office, but if you believe we’re living in the End Times like Michele Bachmann does, we get to take away the car keys.”

“Yes, let Jesus take the wheel,” he continued. “If you think the world is about to end, that’s your right, but you don’t get to vote on next year’s budget, because it doesn’t concern you.”

He went on to point out that in an interview this week, Scalia said the believes the devil is a real person who is tempting people away from God.
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Scalia flubs Supreme Court dissent | MSNBC

The decision upheld an Environmental Protection Agency regulation managing interstate air pollution. In his dissent, Scalia accused the six justices who upheld the rule of writing a decision that “feeds the uncontrolled growth of the administrative state at the expense of government by the people,” and of approving an “undemocratic revision of the Clean Air Act.” But Jonathan Adler, a professor at the Case Western University School of Law and a writer for the conservative law blog Volokh Conspiracy, noted that Scalia’s dissent misstates the context of a 2001 Clean Air Act case, Whitman v. American Trucking Assns., Inc., in which Scalia himself actually wrote the opinion.
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Maybe you'll blame that last one on his aides instead of saying Scalia needs to take responsibility for his decisions.

Perhaps he has an high IQ; but he sure doesn't apply it well. My personal belief is he has been blinded by his catholic ideology, but that's just my personal opinion
 
prometeus said:
While it it a fact that in terms of knowledge, wit and overall intellect Scalia is very well endowed, it is also a fact that history is replete with brilliant people who have done the wrong thing. Scalia's bias is undeniable and irrefutable.
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Yes, that is true, you can still be smart and make mistakes. I disagree with probably 75% or more of Ginsberg's opinions. She has a leftist agenda and will pervert the Constitution to get to the end that she wants. As far as I know, she is a wonderful, thoughtful person. But as we see in this thread, Scalia is a monster to the left because of his opinions. That's just dishonest and cowardly.
 
Anthony60 said:
Yes, that is true, you can still be smart and make mistakes. I disagree with probably 75% or more of Ginsberg's opinions. She has a leftist agenda and will pervert the Constitution to get to the end that she wants. As far as I know, she is a wonderful, thoughtful person. But as we see in this thread, Scalia is a monster to the left because of his opinions. That's just dishonest and cowardly.
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Let me ask you this: Can you say about any SCOTUS decision that you do not like it because of personal preference but nevertheless it is the right decision?
 
paddymcdougall said:
Well, to start with, any Supreme Court justice who speaks so openly on issues that will be coming in front of him/her later is an idiot. Scalia with his speeches has obviously prejudged this and other cases. Other justices may have prejudged, but they have the sense to keep their mouths shut.

I am sure you don't like Bill Maher, but some good points here -
Maher: Bachmann and Scalia are ‘the exact same idiot’



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Scalia flubs Supreme Court dissent | MSNBC



Maybe you'll blame that last one on his aides instead of saying Scalia needs to take responsibility for his decisions.

Perhaps he has an high IQ; but he sure doesn't apply it well. My personal belief is he has been blinded by his catholic ideology, but that's just my personal opinion
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What would blame it on?
 
prometeus said:
Let me ask you this: Can you say about any SCOTUS decision that you do not like it because of personal preference but nevertheless it is the right decision?
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I'm sure I could find a few if I looked through them.
 
beefheart said:
She actually got along great with Scalia, a few years back, she had Kennedy and Scalia come speak at her college, and she enlisted my brother to take Scalia out dove hunting. Of course, he had to do a hell of a security check ahead of time. He said he was a really great guy.
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um, scalia is not a great guy just because he got along with one lesbian and impressed your brother hunting one day. He votes against *every* opportunity to expand gay rights and says truly heinous filth in his dissents, harming far more than one lesbian. That's all that matters to me

And what kind of judas must this lesbian have been i wonder. I mean damn, scalia voted against legalizing *private consensual sex* and she "gets along great" That is far more scandalous and outrageous than being 'outed' by you here. I'd spit in the bastard's face at the least, and she can get in line
 
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Anthony60 said:
Well, I don't need to defend myself here, Scalia is widely known as one of the intellectuals on the Court. So go ahead, prove that's he's not, prove that he's an idiot. I'll wait. Anyone trying that will likely prove that they are one instead. Let the comedy begin!
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LOL....known by whom? I've never heard Scalia referred to as a Court "intellectual". Maybe in your mind....but that's a different story.
 
chromium said:
um, scalia is not a great guy just because he got along with one lesbian and impressed your brother hunting one day. He votes against *every* opportunity to expand gay rights and says truly heinous filth in his dissents, harming far more than one lesbian. That's all that matters to me

And what kind of judas must this lesbian have been i wonder. I mean damn, scalia voted against legalizing *private consensual sex* and she "gets along great" That is far more scandalous and outrageous than being 'outed' by you here. I'd spit in the bastard's face at the least, and she can get in line
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Actually, they all get along personally, while not agreeing on things politically. That is what grown ups do.
 
disneydude said:
LOL....known by whom? I've never heard Scalia referred to as a Court "intellectual". Maybe in your mind....but that's a different story.
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Antonin Scalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Appointed to the Court by President Ronald Reagan in 1986, Scalia has been described as the intellectual anchor for the originalist and textualist position in the Court's conservative wing.

LOL! Look what I found in about 2 seconds. As an aside, maybe you shouldn't reply 95% of the time with "LOL!", it portends a lack of thought.
 
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