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    Re: Supreme Court to take up same sex marriage issues in April

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    name the SCOTUS that says it violates the constitution.
    Ok, so the day before interracial marriage bans were overturned, you would have argued that interracial marriage bans were allowed under the constitution? Or would you have argued that those bans were unconstitutional and should be overturned?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Supreme Court to take up same sex marriage issues in April

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No. There isn't any number of votes that can uphold a law that violates the constitution.
    Unless done by passing an amendment to it.
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    Re: Supreme Court to take up same sex marriage issues in April

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Unless done by passing an amendment to it.
    This is also not done by popular vote.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Supreme Court to take up same sex marriage issues in April

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The news that the anti-gay bigots have been dreading:

    High court to hear gay marriage cases in April

    The Supreme Court says it will decide whether same-sex couples nationwide have a right to marry under the Constitution.

    The justices said Friday they will review an appellate ruling that upheld bans on same-sex unions in four states.

    The case will be argued in April and a decision is expected by late June.
    5/4 split granting SSM nation wide.

    or

    6/3 giving an isolated ruling in favor of ssm that only apples to the specific cases before the court.

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    Re: Supreme Court to take up same sex marriage issues in April

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    or

    6/3 giving an isolated ruling in favor of ssm that only apples to the specific cases before the court.
    I don't think SCOTUS really has an avenue to say same-sex marriage bans are constitutional in specific cases but not in others. Declaring that equal protection only applies to specific people or regions would be...odd.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Supreme Court to take up same sex marriage issues in April

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you have yet to rebuttal mine. you and Disney both made the claim that it is such widely accepted, but when put to the challenge up if you refuse to accept it.
    and go off on some other tangent that has nothing to do with your original argument.

    if it is widely accepted then put it to a vote period end of story.
    back up your claim with something other than I say so.

    if you think it is so widely accept then this shouldn't be an issue.
    Everyone has answered you appropriately. Same sex marriage is widely accepted; however, in states like Texas, it isn't. How long should gay/lesbian couples who live in Texas have to wait to get their constitutional rights by ballot?

    Constitutional rights are decided by courts, not by ballot. Even if 100% Of the people in the US voted for - or against - SSM, it's meaningless except as a measure of acceptance. The SCOTUS, while considering the current climate around the issue, should be guided by the constitution. They have declared marriage a right in the case of prisoners; the 14th amendment guarantees equal protection; ergo SSM should be legal throughout the US, regardless of what voters in one area think about it.

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    Re: Supreme Court to take up same sex marriage issues in April

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Unless done by passing an amendment to it.

    Many attempts were made to amend the United States Constitution to make Civil Marriage only a man and a woman...


    ...They all failed.



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    Re: Supreme Court to take up same sex marriage issues in April

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I don't think SCOTUS really has an avenue to say same-sex marriage bans are constitutional in specific cases but not in others. Declaring that equal protection only applies to specific people or regions would be...odd.
    It's a bit more complicated than that. While some states banned SSM with a mere bill, others have a constitutional amendment. This is less about SSM and more about the conditions in which the Fed can audit a state's very constitution.

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    Re: Supreme Court to take up same sex marriage issues in April

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    5/4 split granting SSM nation wide.

    or

    6/3 giving an isolated ruling in favor of ssm that only apples to the specific cases before the court.
    Nah....6-3 for a number of reasons....two of which are these:

    Kennedy has been a strong advocate for the expansion of the recognition of gay rights. He is soon to retire and will not want to tarnish his record.

    And Roberts....is very protective of his legacy. He will not want to be remembered as being on the wrong side of history. The only hold-outs with me the unholy trinty of Scalia, Thomas and Alito. I guarantee this one. The writing is on the wall.
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    Re: Supreme Court to take up same sex marriage issues in April

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Nah....6-3 for a number of reasons....two of which are these:

    Kennedy has been a strong advocate for the expansion of the recognition of gay rights. He is soon to retire and will not want to tarnish his record.

    And Roberts....is very protective of his legacy. He will not want to be remembered as being on the wrong side of history. The only hold-outs with me the unholy trinty of Scalia, Thomas and Alito. I guarantee this one. The writing is on the wall.
    Politics trumps ideology every time.

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