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    Re: U.S. to begin to train and equip moderate Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    To an extent yes-some things are worth fighting for-and evidently Obama feels the same way.
    What strategic value does Iraq hold?

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    Re: U.S. to begin to train and equip moderate Syria rebels

    11/03/14
    Jihadists with the Al-Qaeda affiliate known as the Al-Nusra Front took control of several villages in Syria’s Idlib province over the weekend and reportedly seized weapons from Western-backed moderate rebel groups.
    Upwards of 80 American-made TOW anti-tank missiles reportedly were captured by Al-Qaed-linked fighters in Syria after Western-supported opposition groups were overrun or defected to Al-Nusra Front

    Al-Qaeda reportedly seizes US anti-tank rockets after defeating rival Syrian rebels ? RT USA

    FSA types can't hold their lunch money, much less weapons.
    arm the Kurds to the teeth with heavy weapons, and do it directly - not thru Baghdad's red tape/graft -
    and forget this dream of moderate Syrian rebels. They switch alliances with alarming frequency

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    Re: U.S. to begin to train and equip moderate Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    **** yes! I do.

    Let's start with these "gutless" Iraqi's. Would that be the ones abandoned by Obama when he refused to leave troops in country?

    Or was the need to get his incompetent ass re-elected more important than the lives of Iraqi's and the growing swell of fanaticism?

    Blame Obama? **** YES! Who ELSE has been in charge of the United States military...Sarah Palin?

    You do know that Barack Hussein Obama was sworn into office SEVEN years ago now, what Bush did is what is know as HISTORY, as he hasn't ordered the bombing of anyone in nearly a decade.

    Obama is head of state.

    Obama is Chief Executive Officer.

    Obama is Commander in Chief.

    Those aren't titles, son, they are job descriptions and nobody else is making the decisions on the war on terror, nor George Bush, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, the other George Bush, Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Ronald Reagan or anyone else....ONE MAN, Barrack Hussein Obama and the "audacity of hope" is entirely responsible for ever ****ing thing that happens in the entire United States government, just like every other president in the history of the United States, even the arrogant, self centered and incompetent Harry S. Truman who coined the phrase "the buck stops here"!

    So get off the sorry old pity pot, wipe the poor me tears from your eyes, and accept the fact your messiah is a complete **** up.
    You do realize that when trained Iraqis were confronted with insurgents from IS, they abandoned their American weapons and ran away, yes? You know what an American would call an American who did that don't you? Does deserter, traitor mean anything?

    I don't believe President Obama is my messiah, I believe that he is the right wing conservative's messiah, since they seem to be overly obsessed with every little thing Obama does, or doesn't do, it's called ODS.

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    Re: U.S. to begin to train and equip moderate Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I'm pretty sure me and Conservative have been over this but no war in the history of mankind has been won through Air Power alone. At some point you have to move in and secure the locations on the ground with troops you can count on. And as has been so clearly demonstrated, local militias can't cut the mustard. The only ones with the capability to handle such a job are professional, western troops. What ultimately we'll have to do is the same thing we did with Japan; and that is occupy the country and take down everything that is even connected with Islam, same as we did with the warrior cult in Japan.
    There are so many Muslim jihadists in so many countries I doubt it would be practical to occupy them all. I think weak U.S. foreign policy has fed jihadism, and that a lot of what jihadists have dared to do, from 9/11 on, began with Iran. The regime in Tehran is the crown jewel of the movement, in a way, because it showed Muslim fanatics elsewhere, both Sunni and Shia, that they could hope to impose their shari'ah on even fairly large and important nations. That is exactly why it has been such a blunder for the U.S. to let it exist for thirty-five years, as it continued to sponsor jihadist attacks around the world that have killed thousands of American civilians and soldiers. It's been estimated that just the anti-tank mines Iranian operatives supplied their large network of jihadist cells in Iraq, and trained them how to use, killed at least six hundred American servicemen. Iran also directed a 2007 plot in which four Americans were seized in Karbala by operatives in American uniforms, and then driven to a remote area and murdered while still handcuffed together.

    Why were these outrages and the many other over the years never answered with any real force? By tolerating this menace--and it is now on the verge of becoming a nuclear-armed menace--I think several administrations have encourages jihadists everywhere by making the U.S. seem to be weak and indecisive. At the least there should have been a full-scale effort to subvert and overthrow the mullahs' regime. And a lot more than that might have been done, including a blockade Iran would have been helpless to lift. No other nation had enough interest in the Khomeinists to have risked interfering, and their regime never could have survived the economic ruin and humiliation. By letting Khomeinist Iran survive, we have also let it try to extend its control westward through Assad's regime in Syria and through Iran's proxy Hizballah in Lebanon. This in turn has fomented the Sunni jihadists in Syria and Iraq to try to take control of those countries, and we are not doing a hell of a lot to stop them.

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    Re: U.S. to begin to train and equip moderate Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Are trying to sell us on the idea the Bush had authorization to use force? And by extension, Obama as well?
    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    He should probably claim that, though its starting to be a stretch. Syria didnt aid or plan 911 afaik. And congress probably ought to at least refresh it once in a while.

    "...there are thousands of these terrorist in more than sixty countries...."


    Notice 107-40 cited above.

    Here is the law, just in case you want to read it again:
    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-10...-107publ40.htm

    Enough said, carry on.
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    There were, by most estimates, 500 Nazis in Charlottesville. One of them went homicidal. Not all Nazis are violent extremists. You are trying to rationalize your hatred and it's simply not rational.
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    as I noted, its better that 10 nutjobs get guns than one good person be wrongly disarmed.

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    Re: U.S. to begin to train and equip moderate Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    **** yes! I do.

    Let's start with these "gutless" Iraqi's. Would that be the ones abandoned by Obama when he refused to leave troops in country?

    Or was the need to get his incompetent ass re-elected more important than the lives of Iraqi's and the growing swell of fanaticism?

    Blame Obama? **** YES! Who ELSE has been in charge of the United States military...Sarah Palin?

    You do know that Barack Hussein Obama was sworn into office SEVEN years ago now, what Bush did is what is know as HISTORY, as he hasn't ordered the bombing of anyone in nearly a decade.

    Obama is head of state.

    Obama is Chief Executive Officer.

    Obama is Commander in Chief.

    Those aren't titles, son, they are job descriptions and nobody else is making the decisions on the war on terror, nor George Bush, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, the other George Bush, Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Ronald Reagan or anyone else....ONE MAN, Barrack Hussein Obama and the "audacity of hope" is entirely responsible for ever ****ing thing that happens in the entire United States government, just like every other president in the history of the United States, even the arrogant, self centered and incompetent Harry S. Truman who coined the phrase "the buck stops here"!

    So get off the sorry old pity pot, wipe the poor me tears from your eyes, and accept the fact your messiah is a complete **** up.
    This is known as checkmate.

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    Re: U.S. to begin to train and equip moderate Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    What strategic value does Iraq hold?
    A geopolitical ally in a hostile region, especially when its not ceded by an incompetent president to Iran and ISIS.

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    Re: U.S. to begin to train and equip moderate Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    11/03/14
    Jihadists with the Al-Qaeda affiliate known as the Al-Nusra Front took control of several villages in Syria’s Idlib province over the weekend and reportedly seized weapons from Western-backed moderate rebel groups.
    Upwards of 80 American-made TOW anti-tank missiles reportedly were captured by Al-Qaed-linked fighters in Syria after Western-supported opposition groups were overrun or defected to Al-Nusra Front

    Al-Qaeda reportedly seizes US anti-tank rockets after defeating rival Syrian rebels ? RT USA

    FSA types can't hold their lunch money, much less weapons.
    arm the Kurds to the teeth with heavy weapons, and do it directly - not thru Baghdad's red tape/graft -
    and forget this dream of moderate Syrian rebels. They switch alliances with alarming frequency
    That goes to show that these islamists will flip like its cool. Theres no shortage of anti tank missiles in the region, mostly from Russia.

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    Re: U.S. to begin to train and equip moderate Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    A geopolitical ally in a hostile region, especially when its not ceded by an incompetent president to Iran and ISIS.
    That's hilarious, do you also write for the Onion?

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    Re: U.S. to begin to train and equip moderate Syria rebels

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    That's hilarious, do you also write for the Onion?
    No but like onions, I make people cry.

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