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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Gruber was not "in Obama's inner circle," which you guys make sound like he was a member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, carrying out Magneto's bidding. He was a one-year contractual employee of the Department of Health and Human Services. His involvement largely consisted of running the program through various economic models.

    The ACA-Gruber Connection
    LOL, yep, you are right, he didn't even know Obama and had nothing to do with ACA. Thanks for showing just how partisan you are and that Gruber's statement was indeed accurate. Did he interview you before making that statement?

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

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    LOL, yep, you are right, he didn't even know Obama and had nothing to do with ACA. Thanks for showing just how partisan you are and that Gruber's statement was indeed accurate. Did he interview you before making that statement?
    Which is, of course, not what I said in the slightest. Nor is that what the link I posted says. So basically, you decided to make up an argument and attack that. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I wonder if he represented liberalism when he worked on Romneycare?
    States rights are something that is foreign to you and it violated all liberal principles which require massive central govt. to implement liberal misery equally to everyone else. If your state wants Romneycare, sell it to the people of your state

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    States rights are something that is foreign to you and it violated all liberal principles which require massive central govt. to implement liberal misery equally to everyone else. If your state wants Romneycare, sell it to the people of your state
    You have some very bizarre ideas of what constitute liberal principles. But we'd all like to thank you for your latest contribution to What Liberals Really Think.
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Because what we need in this country is 50 different bureaucracies. That's so much better than one.

    You love big government, as long as it's done by your guy.

    No, we need federal bureaucrats solving social problems in your local community. Yes, you obviously are a history major understanding what our Founders created. My guy is the Governor of TX, my local Representative, and the freedom and opportunity I have here in this state along with a part time legislature. Wonder why it is that TX is among the leaders in population growth, job creation??

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You have some very bizarre ideas of what constitute liberal principles. But we'd all like to thank you for your latest contribution to What Liberals Really Think.
    Yep, I pay attention to the Pelosi, Reid, and Obama wing of the liberal party. You obviously are making Gruber look great.

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yep, I pay attention to the Pelosi, Reid, and Obama wing of the liberal party. You obviously are making Gruber look great.
    Gruber! Shots for everbody!


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    How on earth does Gruber, who was never elected to any position, "represent liberalism"? That's an utterly asinine statement.

    He also was not "a leader in the Obama administration." Ever since this guy surfaced, conservatives have done nothing but lie about this guy and his actual role in the ACA.
    The same way all Obama and liberal advisors affect policies. So what you are telling me is he had no input on ACA and didn't help write it? Pelosi cannot even get it right because even her website mentions Gruber

    Earlier, on Nov. 13, Pelosi said of Gruber at a weekly briefing to reporters, “I don’t know who he is,” a comment her staff later said meant that she didn’t know Gruber personally. We found seven instances of Gruber being cited on Pelosi’s leadership website, and the Washington Post dug up November 2009 comments by Pelosi, in which she specifically named Gruber in citing his work.
    And then there is this
    Gruber was hired by the Department of Health and Human Services for a one-year contract to provide “technical assistance in evaluating options for national healthcare reform,” as a Feb. 25, 2009, federal job posting indicates. The posting said he was uniquely qualified for the position not only because of his expertise in health economics but his “proprietary statistically sophisticated micro-simulation model” that could determine the impact of changes in health care policy.

    Gruber’s consultancy work wasn’t made public until it was reported in early January 2010. Fox News then reported that Gruber was paid almost $400,000 for the contract, an amount that was recently confirmed by the Washington Post’s Kessler.

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, we need federal bureaucrats solving social problems in your local community. Yes, you obviously are a history major understanding what our Founders created. My guy is the Governor of TX, my local Representative, and the freedom and opportunity I have here in this state along with a part time legislature. Wonder why it is that TX is among the leaders in population growth, job creation??
    As the price of oil continues to decline, the economy in Texas will suffer. Much to my delight.

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    States rights are something that is foreign to you and it violated all liberal principles which require massive central govt. to implement liberal misery equally to everyone else. If your state wants Romneycare, sell it to the people of your state
    So Romneycare doesn't require a big bureaucracy? Tell me more about how it doesn't, and then tell the people of Massachussetts. They love a good laugh.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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