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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Racer View Post
    Just so I am clear here, are you saying that the GOP is the enemy of the Democrats?
    In the political sense, sure. The parties have been in direct opposition for about 20 years.
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    What, did the Bush era not happen? Wait, I forgot, you were impaired by temporary blindness and deafness during those 8 years...

    Frankly everyone gets all worked up about government overreach until it's their guy in there. Few, if any, Republicans cared when Reagan and Bush expanded the size and scope of executive powers and governmnt in general. But put a Democrat in office and suddenly he's Hitler reincarnated.
    Really? Tell me what laws Bush changed and how Reagan and Bush expanded executive power by themselves? Neither Bush nor Reagan ever had debt exceeding 100% of GDP nor did they go around Congress, they worked with Congress. You have selective outrage

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL.....answer your spin when you were proven wrong for the 10,000th time? You truly are a typical Republican Con......you keep spouting off the same lies and disproved propoganda, hoping that maybe it will stick the 2743rd time.
    Ever since Obama was elected, conservatives have been in full CYA mode, basically pretending that all the bad stuff we remember about the Bush presidency was just lies fed to us by the "liberal media." It's a full-on historical whitewashing happening before our very eyes.
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Because he was in Obama's inner circle and involved in ACA. He is conveying what the liberal elites actually believe and you are making him look like a genius
    Gruber was not "in Obama's inner circle," which you guys make sound like he was a member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, carrying out Magneto's bidding. He was a one-year contractual employee of the Department of Health and Human Services. His involvement largely consisted of running the program through various economic models.

    The ACA-Gruber Connection
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why? because he represents liberalism and was a leader in the Obama Administration. Where do you think he got the thought from? Why are you so obsessed with distorting the Bush record and believing 2008 was its entirety? Why are you ignoring the Obama results and still blaming Bush for the yearly deficits and massive unemployment/under employment?
    How on earth does Gruber, who was never elected to any position, "represent liberalism"? That's an utterly asinine statement.

    He also was not "a leader in the Obama administration." Ever since this guy surfaced, conservatives have done nothing but lie about this guy and his actual role in the ACA.
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yeah, I do but you don't seem to understand the difference between a state program and a Federal Program. Please figure it out and get back to me
    Because what we need in this country is 50 different bureaucracies. That's so much better than one.

    You love big government, as long as it's done by your guy.


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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    How on earth does Gruber, who was never elected to any position, "represent liberalism"? That's an utterly asinine statement.

    He also was not "a leader in the Obama administration." Ever since this guy surfaced, conservatives have done nothing but lie about this guy and his actual role in the ACA.
    I wonder if he represented liberalism when he worked on Romneycare?


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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ever since Obama was elected, conservatives have been in full CYA mode, basically pretending that all the bad stuff we remember about the Bush presidency was just lies fed to us by the "liberal media." It's a full-on historical whitewashing happening before our very eyes.
    Yep......unfortunately for them, the legacy of GWB speaks for itself......as a crazy woman once said....you can't put lipstick on a pig.
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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Progs today do like saving our National Parks from the GOP, one of nature's greatest enemies.



    And I've yet to see a GOP Con as yourself defend or say good things about TR.
    Such as agreeing with the 16th and 17th amendments .

    I didn't live during the Teddy Roosevelt days, did you? I prefer talking about something I actually understand and not influenced by others. You seem to have a very serious problem understanding reality and what is going on today.

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    Re: Obama vows to ‘play offense’ against GOP-led Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yep......unfortunately for them, the legacy of GWB speaks for itself......as a crazy woman once said....you can't put lipstick on a pig.
    Interesting how it speaks differently to those who actually understand his record not the made up one you want to claim. On every thread you divert to Bush showing how little you understand of basic civics and then of course economics is a foreign subject for you. The legacy of Obama will live on forever as well and the next GOP President is going to have a severe mess to clean up.

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