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George Soros funds Ferguson protests to the tune of $33M?? Is this for real?

Without Soros backing financially, would these groups have been able to be around and active? Or would they have died out in favor of other ones?

And? Are you honestly saying that the Ferguson protests would not have happened if Soros didn't give $33M to various groups 3 years ago?
 
And you expect any sane person to agree that Glenn Beck is proof.

Right.

Show me the real credible proof or admit that you can't.

First you show me where he got it wrong.
 
And? Are you honestly saying that the Ferguson protests would not have happened if Soros didn't give $33M to various groups 3 years ago?

It was an answer to your loaded question....Can you answer what i asked, or are you going to dodge it like all the other libs that don't like the answers they have to give to direct questions?
 
*Spoiler Alert*: No, it isn't real.
 
It was an answer to your loaded question....Can you answer what i asked, or are you going to dodge it like all the other libs that don't like the answers they have to give to direct questions?


I didn't ask a question.

I can't answer what you asked because I can't be bothered researching the figures I'd need to determine how much each organisation needs to remain afloat, how much they receive in donations from people who aren't Soros, how much they received from Soros, and what impact the funds from Soros had on the scope of the organisation.

If you want to look all that up, be my guest.
 
I didn't ask a question.

I can't answer what you asked because I can't be bothered researching the figures I'd need to determine how much each organisation needs to remain afloat, how much they receive in donations from people who aren't Soros, how much they received from Soros, and what impact the funds from Soros had on the scope of the organisation.

If you want to look all that up, be my guest.

So then the answer would be no, they wouldn't be around, or at least most likely not....So, in an indirect way, yes, he did aid them being there in Ferguson...
 
First you show me where he got it wrong.

If you are under the impression that I am going to give one iota of credence to anything that that idiot Glen Beck says, then you are sadly mistaken. The only thing that Glen Beck demonstrates that it is true that there is a sucker born every minute.

Your problem therefore is obvious.

Now, go and get something credible that even comes close to what you are alleging.
 
He wants to start a race war. I once visited the central European university in Budapest because I knew a person who worked there and on big display in the lobby was a book called "the coming race war". And he is a big sponsor to that school.
 
If you are under the impression that I am going to give one iota of credence to anything that that idiot Glen Beck says, then you are sadly mistaken. The only thing that Glen Beck demonstrates that it is true that there is a sucker born every minute.

Your problem therefore is obvious.

Now, go and get something credible that even comes close to what you are alleging.

It should be simple then....just show where he got it wrong....You can't....Case closed.
 
It should be simple then....just show where he got it wrong....You can't....Case closed.

It IS simple, very simple. You don't know what you're talking about.
 
Ya'know; I cant say that. The left as you call it, has no money to speak of, in the same way that the right has industry, banking and people like the Koch Brother et al who are not only financing but controlling the country's agenda. I would also venture to say that the anarchist destructive forces that show at these left-wing demonstrations have nothing to do with leftist Democratic agendas and more to do with strictly vandalisms: an argument could be made I'm sure that such anarchists are supported through right-wing black funds aimed at destabilizing any efforts from the left to bring changes in our relationships with authority... A lot of the destructive power in Ferguson was locals looting and just plain taking advantage of a situation; which of course only worsens that situation.

Yeah, I don't think Soros is the pilot that you think he is, moreover, I believe that it is his background and direct experiences with a real right-wing that motivate him. For that I applaud his efforts.

"The left as you call it, has no money to speak of, in the same way that the right has industry, banking and people like the Koch Brother et al who are not only financing but controlling the country's agenda."

Really? That's quite a claim to make, and an often repeated meme, that isn't really true.

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Fourteen of America's 25 Biggest Campaign Donors Are Unions | National Review Online

Political Spending by Unions Far Exceeds Direct Donations - WSJ
 
"The left as you call it, has no money to speak of, in the same way that the right has industry, banking and people like the Koch Brother et al who are not only financing but controlling the country's agenda."

Really? That's quite a claim to make, and an often repeated meme, that isn't really true.

Fourteen of America's 25 Biggest Campaign Donors Are Unions | National Review Online

Political Spending by Unions Far Exceeds Direct Donations - WSJ

$993 million compared to Wall Street interests, banks, insurance companies, The Food Industry, oil interests, communications interests, transportation and military contractors!?! $993 million wouldn't even wet their whistles!!

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$993 million compared to Wall Street interests, banks, insurance companies, The Food Industry, oil interests, communications interests, transportation and military contractors!?! $993 million wouldn't even wet their whistles!!

:lamo :lamo :lamo

Seems that you aren't backing up your assertions, where as I'm providing relevant citations.

Fourteen of America's 25 Biggest Campaign Donors Are Unions | National Review Online

Not so easy to laugh it off.
 
So then the answer would be no, they wouldn't be around, or at least most likely not....So, in an indirect way, yes, he did aid them being there in Ferguson...

Can you actually prove they wouldn't be around, or are you just pulling that out your arse?
 
So he donated fund to charities and organisations who several years later protested at Ferguson. The implication in the OP that somehow Soros is partially responsible for the Ferguson riots is bull****.

I would tend to agree but reserve my final view on hopefully more information.
 
Did he give them money before or after? It seems to me that if he gave money to these groups long before the protests he didn't exactly find the protest.

Just admit that you was Soros and Ferguson in a headline and got a little woody.

I admit it moved... a little, but not wood. Not yet.
 
Seems that you aren't backing up your assertions, where as I'm providing relevant citations.

Fourteen of America's 25 Biggest Campaign Donors Are Unions | National Review Online

Not so easy to laugh it off.
Do you realize data from open secrets is by individual and is summed up to the organization they either work for or are affiliated with? Actblue for example is promoted by various liberal websites. The fact they are the largest is meaningless, in fact your whole chart is bogus.
 
Do you realize data from open secrets is by individual and is summed up to the organization they either work for or are affiliated with? Actblue for example is promoted by various liberal websites. The fact they are the largest is meaningless, in fact your whole chart is bogus.

That is true. However, if you look at the right hand side of that particular chart, there's the comparison between union and non-union, with the union side up by quite a bit.

Now, have you ever heard of a union supporting any party or candidate that wasn't Democratic? I know that I certainly have not.

So this meme that 'we poor broke liberals don't have any money and the big bad corporations give way more money to Republicans' is pretty false, wouldn't you say? Probably more accurate that they are fairly close to each other, and that was my point. Nothing more.

Apologies if I really didn't make it that well, I was ion a bit of a rush, and perhaps I should have taken a bit more time.
 
Seems that you aren't backing up your assertions, where as I'm providing relevant citations.

Fourteen of America's 25 Biggest Campaign Donors Are Unions | National Review Online

Not so easy to laugh it off.

You're not proving anything; the left as you call it, has nowhere NEAR the resources of the corporate and I;m afraid to say that anyone who does not believe that is either stupid or lying. All you have to do is look at the direction of the last thirty years to see it as plain as day.

Sorry man, but your "unions and their money" ain't gonna fly.
 
Oh geez. I swear, the only time the hard-right cares about what billionaires do is when said billionaires identify as Democrat or with Democratic causes. Doesn't much matter that the wealthy elite buys entire elections and manipulates our government like a puppet, goddamn it some Democrat donor gave a couple bucks to an organization that later used a portion of that money to fund a protest. The horror.
 
You're not proving anything; the left as you call it, has nowhere NEAR the resources of the corporate and I;m afraid to say that anyone who does not believe that is either stupid or lying. All you have to do is look at the direction of the last thirty years to see it as plain as day.

Sorry man, but your "unions and their money" ain't gonna fly.

Despite predictions that right-wing money would flood the political system after the Supreme Court threw out key campaign finance laws, a survey finds that left-leaning groups, led by labor unions, outspent conservative donors like the billionaire Koch brothers in state political advertising wars last year.

Outside groups — nonprofits, super PACs, business and labor groups, and private individuals — spent at least $209 million to influence state-level elections in the 38 states in the 2012 election cycle. Money funneled through party groups such as the Democratic Governors Association and Republican Governors Association accounted for nearly 40 percent of the $209 million.

The study, released this week by the watchdog group the Center for Public Integrity, also found that groups supportive of Democrats, led by labor unions, outpaced their GOP rivals by more than $8 million in those states, spending some $44 million to aid Democratic campaigns.

The findings were based on an analysis of data compiled by the National Institute on Money in State Politics and state elections offices. It focused on the states that had significant gubernatorial and state legislative races last year and had data on campaign giving.

The findings challenge the popular narrative that business groups and big donors like the industrialist brothers David and Charles Koch would give conservative candidates a major financial leg up in the wake of the Supreme Court’s Citizens United ruling in 2010 that lifted many of the long-standing limits on corporate and union campaign spending, while effectively invalidating some two dozen state laws on independent spending by outside groups.

“The narrative has been that Citizens United is just going to help corporations, and people have forgotten that you can take unlimited union money too,” said John Dunbar, managing editor for politics at the Center for Public Integrity.
Forget the Koch brothers: Labor unions took advantage of easier campaign finance laws - Washington Times

The findings from Center for Public Integrity study say your preconceived notions are not accurate.
 
Actually, when compared to your facts, there is a definitive connection, and you've already admitted it exists.

How do 2011 donations factor into Ferguson protests?
 
Do you realize data from open secrets is by individual and is summed up to the organization they either work for or are affiliated with? Actblue for example is promoted by various liberal websites. The fact they are the largest is meaningless, in fact your whole chart is bogus.

The fundamental problem of the political Left seems to be that the real world does not fit their preconceptions. Therefore they see the real world as what is wrong, and what needs to be changed, since apparently their preconceptions cannot be wrong.
 
How do 2011 donations factor into Ferguson protests?

Because he funds groups that advance agendas built on lies and do nothing but create hostility, and help further divide the American people.
 
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