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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    A step toward eventually running the internet in full - a la "single payer" - and instantaneously monitoring every keystroke, transaction, and communication that every American individual and business makes.


    They already do that and have been making those efforts since the Bush administration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Uhh, people speak through their local government and do want them to. Do you really think everyone is thrilled with Comcast and hates the idea of Comcast having competition?
    I think people in some cities dont want govt to be that competition, which is what Obama is trying to make happen.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

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    "I have no support for my claim so I'll just link a bunch of random carrier regulations and pretend it supports me."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Where is this regulation? I googled this and the prices for different shipping speeds and weights vary.



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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I think people in some cities dont want govt to be that competition, which is what Obama is trying to make happen.
    If people like Comcast then they'll choose them over the government.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    how ,exactly, does this add competition to the telecom industry?
    In my area, comcast (or one of its predecessors) had a monopoly on TV service. People who are hooked into fiber can now get the same Triply Play package deals from someone other than Comcast, or any combination thereof, so telephone, internet, and TV services now have another competitor. I do not see how you could think having fewer players is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If people like Comcast then they'll choose them over the government.
    No they wont, because govt is 'free'. Unless your middle class in which case youll pay for Comcast, your govt internet which you dont want, and two or three peoples govt internet who cant afford it.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Here is exactly what will happen.

    Google Paying $1 For $39 Million Fiber Service In Utah

    In Provo, a city of 115,000 about 45 miles south of Salt Lake City, Google is making its first plans to take over an existing fiber system and will start operating it long before it can build the service for Austin.

    Even as Google takes ownership of the municipal network, Provo will have to pay off loans for its construction for another dozen years, according to agreements released Thursday by city officials.

    For nearly as many years, households have been paying $5.35 a month on their utility bills for a system that provides Internet, television and phone service — whether they use it or not.

    But Provo officials say Google's deal is a good one for the city and its residents because the system hasn't been able to support itself. Google Fiber will offer residents something in return for the utility fee — basic Internet service at no charge if they pay a $30 hookup fee.

    That's far less than the current $700 activation fee.
    Govt will either fail spectacularly, or they will become a monopoly charging high costs for low quality service.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    I suspect that fiberoptic is going to be necessary for smart metering to work properly once that system gets fully up and running. We already have the meters--they communicate usage via antennas mounted on water towers and such. I suspect to have them interact more fully with being able to idle appliances and such briefly to take peak loads off the grid will require something more complex that radio transmission.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Here is exactly what will happen.



    Govt will either fail spectacularly, or they will become a monopoly charging high costs for low quality service.
    Google has no interest in delivering low quality internet. They have every interest in delivering top-notch internet.

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