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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Beyond ideological rhetoric I suspect you won't be able to objectively argue why this is a bad thing.
    Given as it's playoff season, let's use a football analogy:

    How would you feel if you were the Seattle Seahawks and you found out that the NFL had allowed the referees to buy the Patriots? Now you are competing against the very people who are setting and enforcing the rules. Do you think that you would get a fair game from the refs if they were in the position to make a butt-load money if the Pats won??
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    LOL!!!

    The outfit that brought you the NSA and the Patriot Act want to make sure that you have the best doggone communications system they think you deserve while making sure that you have no say in what YOU think you deserve.

    Classic.
    I think that's a good point in the future. In this current environment I would say it doesn't really matter, given that the government is sucking raw data from my own keystrokes as we speak. Should we clamp down on that in the future, I think that would present some interesting issues surrounding what one could expect from a public internet in terms of personal security and confidentiality.
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Wrong. If you can see the sky, you have your choice of multiple ISPs that can provide BB.
    Satellite internet is tough to call broadband... amiright?
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Why?

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    I'm a fan of actual competition and it's benefits.


    now , if we choose to pursue these kind of things.. fine... but let's not call it competition, and let's not bases these models on competition.... they are not competitive... the word needs to be stricken from the conversation entirely.
    ( as evident by the fact that these cities can set up super fast networks that private forms are unable to)

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Given as it's playoff season, let's use a football analogy:

    How would you feel if you were the Seattle Seahawks and you found out that the NFL had allowed the referees to buy the Patriots? Now you are competing against the very people who are setting and enforcing the rules. Do you think that you would get a fair game from the refs if they were in the position to make a butt-load money if the Pats won??
    I like your analogy, but I'm going to take it another way. As a fan, how much fun would it be to watch if it was just the Seahawks vs practice squad every game? Because that's what buying local internet from ILECs is like:

    Do you want to go with ATT, this company ATT is merging with, or this company that rents ATT's lines?
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Wrong. If you can see the sky, you have your choice of multiple ISPs that can provide BB.
    Satellite broadband is extremely asynchronous and latency is very high. The only time its a good option is when there are simply no other options at all available.
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Given as it's playoff season, let's use a football analogy:
    I don't know anything about sports. Can you use a different analogy?

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    It's setting the gov't in position to compete with private businesses. That's a BAD thing. Yes, I know that the gov't has done it in the past and it was a bad thing then as well.
    The TVA was controversial as could be, but Southerners (who have always had the disposition of being overly fearful of government) embraced it as a good thing.
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I'm a fan of actual competition and it's benefits.


    now , if we choose to pursue these kind of things.. fine... but let's not call it competition, and let's not bases these models on competition.... they are not competitive... the word needs to be stricken from the conversation entirely.
    ( as evident by the fact that these cities can set up super fast networks that private forms are unable to)
    Okay, walk me through a point-by-point list of what happens between the government expanding broadband to the whole country to it failing. Explain it to me like I'm a child, but without the libertarian rhetoric.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    But of course. I want broadband, but not Obama broadband.
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Right, regular broadband is like a Mercedes, while Obama broadband is like a Trabant.
    Might be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Well, there's reason to do so. The President is attempting to wedge the Federal government in between the state's prohibitive law of local ISP control.
    I'm for more competition.
    I'm for better broadband performance and reliability at affordable prices for the consumers.
    But I'm also for Municipal and State's right to have that local ISP control as well.

    Guess it puts me in the middle of all of that one way or another.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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