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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    I think part of the dispute is what assumptions people are making. I think if people assume the municipal broadbands will be like municipal water and you are forced to have it with no competition at whatever price they set, then you would see it as the government taking over the market. Like I have indicated, this is something my city is doing and it is the exact opposite. The city is creating the network, but anybody can access the fiber network to deliver their services, and in that sense, it is doing the exact opposite of what the former people seem to believe. We are not a huge market and I suspect that until the city finishes all the fiber we will not see a lot of competition off it, but eventually any company in the world could compete with any other company in the world to provide telephone, TV, internet over it up to the gig per second or whatever it is data capabilities.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I addressed what I see the admin is up too. That you want to believe thier bull**** is on you. How many times can this man con you ppl?
    ALEC wrote the laws, the states passed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    A step toward eventually running the internet in full - a la "single payer" - and instantaneously monitoring every keystroke, transaction, and communication that every American individual and business makes.
    Please take us down that slippery slope and explain that transition to us in detail, using your own words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    You'll like it. It'll have all the Muslum social networks.
    Obscured Facebook?
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Obamacare. That is all that really needs to be said.
    Sure, if you're just throwing out utterly pointless, irrelevant crap.
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I read this: Obama pushes broadband plan, critics see

    Translation Obama wants tax payers to pay for internet the government can give away to "targeted demographics" in return for votes. that's all this is. thats his schtick. Bribing stupid ppl with free **** and packaging it in a way the guillible can swallow, hook line amd sinker.
    Well, that's a remarkably stupid interpretation of the article in question.
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I addressed what I see the admin is up too. That you want to believe thier bull**** is on you. How many times can this man con you ppl?
    TRANSLATION: "If Obama thinks it is good, it is automatically bad." What a pathetic string of "arguments" you've managed to string together here. You really haven't missed a beat.
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Here it comes, the first roadblock in the internet, setup by the federal govt. And a violation of states rights. The govt has no power to control personal communications, certainly not to tell cities that they cant make laws prohibiting govts from running their own ISPs. And Obama wants to make YOU pay more taxes for it.

    The result, much like with sewage, garbage, electricity, will be to drive private options out of business since govt can compete unfairly.



    Obama pushes broadband plan, critics see
    Yes because the government did such a great job in creating a website, let's trust them to build the internet. This sounds like a good plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    I think part of the dispute is what assumptions people are making. I think if people assume the municipal broadbands will be like municipal water and you are forced to have it with no competition at whatever price they set, then you would see it as the government taking over the market. Like I have indicated, this is something my city is doing and it is the exact opposite. The city is creating the network, but anybody can access the fiber network to deliver their services, and in that sense, it is doing the exact opposite of what the former people seem to believe. We are not a huge market and I suspect that until the city finishes all the fiber we will not see a lot of competition off it, but eventually any company in the world could compete with any other company in the world to provide telephone, TV, internet over it up to the gig per second or whatever it is data capabilities.
    If the government was really interested in solving the issue, why not break up the monopolies that have prevented competition. I mean, when you have the CEO of (I think it was) Time Warner come out and openly saying that they have negotiated which markets they are going to compete in and which ones they will not, something needs to happened. Bottom line though, I just don't trust the government anywhere near the internet, especially.. as I said above, after the Obamacare Website disaster...

    Besides, I don't think this government has proven they can handle infrastructure they already have to take care of... we really want to hand them more?
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    TRANSLATION: "If Obama thinks it is good, it is automatically bad." What a pathetic string of "arguments" you've managed to string together here. You really haven't missed a beat.
    Dude, Obamas lied for 6 years straight and you still drool at the sound of his voice.
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Please take us down that slippery slope and explain that transition to us in detail, using your own words.
    Is it so hard to imagine? If the government were actually competent enough to build, run and maintain an internet infrastructure that could rival the one already in place, then they could subsidize the prices below what others could compete at. Thus driving them out and leaving the government as the only provider in town.

    Again, not so worried about this because the government has shown with our bridges and roads that they can't run and maintain infrastructure.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Dude, Obamas lied for 6 years straight and you still drool at the sound of his voice.
    You clearly don't know Kobie if you think he's a drooling fan of Obama. Don't you realize that even liberals have started to abandon him?

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