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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Certain government services by their very nature allow for competition and allow the quality to improve via that competition. A very straightforward example of this is mail delivery, and broadband should that competition be introduced. Obviously certain services by their physical nature competition would be logistically...challenging. This would include the dmv, water, gas and power. Anyway, when competition is a physical possibility it should be taken advantage of and introduced at every opportunity.
    And the best economists would agree with you.
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    because it translates to this ------ HOW?
    Cost overruns. Rollout disaster. Cooked numbers. A bill so big we are still trying to figure out what it all means. Millions losing coverage and then inflated numbers of those who have benefited.

    The short story is that the federal government was given limited powers in the beginning for a reason. They need to stay out of it. ACA was promised as the solution to our health care problems, instead it has been a clusterfvck from the beginning and is still costing the industry millions (billions?) trying to comply and stay in business. It really is hard to believe that after everything that has happened in the past 6 years that anyone would still fall for "the federal government can do it better".

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Cost overruns. Rollout disaster. Cooked numbers. A bill so big we are still trying to figure out what it all means. Millions losing coverage and then inflated numbers of those who have benefited.

    The short story is that the federal government was given limited powers in the beginning for a reason. They need to stay out of it. ACA was promised as the solution to our health care problems, instead it has been a clusterfvck from the beginning and is still costing the industry millions (billions?) trying to comply and stay in business. It really is hard to believe that after everything that has happened in the past 6 years that anyone would still fall for "the federal government can do it better".

    OK, and .... WHAT in Obama's plan is for the federal government to implement on a "product" level with respect to the link in the OP?

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    OK, and .... WHAT in Obama's plan is for the federal government to implement on a "product" level with respect to the link in the OP?
    Ok, if you can restate that in english that would be helpful. Next we need to look at the text of the proposal (bill) instead of just this article, and then perhaps we can discuss it. Although it will likely be tomorrow. I'm working, lunch is over, and I have dinner plans.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Ok, if you can restate that in english that would be helpful. Next we need to look at the text of the proposal (bill) instead of just this article, and then perhaps we can discuss it. Although it will likely be tomorrow. I'm working, lunch is over, and I have dinner plans.
    Internet providers successfully lobbied state governments in order to prevent local municipalities from building their own isps. That's what the proposal is about: restoring freedom to local governments to choose their own course and provide basic utilities to their citizens like they should have been able to from the very beginning. The communications corporations were able to bribe their way into preventing competition, and this bill opens competition back up again. Everyone wins. Well, everyone but Telecom that is, but **** them.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Why should a city not be able to setup it's own broadband? It is not forcing cities to create their own. It will add much needed competition to the telecomms industry.
    No, it won't. You are sadly misguided i you think that is the case.
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No, it won't. You are sadly misguided i you think that is the case.
    Read the article.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Here is exactly what will happen.



    Govt will either fail spectacularly, or they will become a monopoly charging high costs for low quality service.

    $5.35 a month + $30 dollar activation seems a good deal, "basic" here is way more then that. Also, looked it up, and you can still get Comcast or Centurylink in Provo from what I see. Thus the current ridiculous activation fee (which the google deal is supposed to fix). So....how is it an example of either?

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Read the article.
    No, read history, economics, common sense. Or I could read a craptastic propaganda piece that convinces the gullible the government cares bout them. I'll stick with reality you can have the fantasy.
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No, read history, economics, common sense. Or I could read a craptastic propaganda piece that convinces the gullible the government cares bout them. I'll stick with reality you can have the fantasy.
    You could read the article instead. You know, in case you wanted to know what the thread is about.

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