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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Aside from assistance programs for the poor, when is government free? I can't think of a single government service I've used that I didn't have to pay for.

    I really don't think you've done your homework.
    In the same way that community college is 'free'.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

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    Six times, huh? Apparently UPS and Fedex didn't get that memo.
    Youre not adding anything to this debate.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Uhh yeah that regulation doesn't mean what you think it means.
    Am I just supposed to take your statement as fact, or were you planning to provide some facts, reasoning, logic, or hell, even make something up to support it?

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Ist broad band a public good?
    Considering the military requires servicemembers to have access to internet even while not on duty, I'd say it is becoming a public necessity.
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Why should a city not be able to setup it's own broadband? It is not forcing cities to create their own. It will add much needed competition to the telecomms industry.
    There are a few cities that are actually doing this, and at gigabit speeds as well. it is full fiber network.
    although I think it is internet only and it is cheaper than the POS services offered by telecoms.

    that is why people are screaming for google fiber. for 120 bucks a month you can get full HD a 1 gig line up/down. you get 1 terabyte of recording space, you get a free nexus 7 to use as the remote, and you can record up to 8 tv shows at once.

    I am almost tempted to move to Austin just for google fiber.

    I always encourage competition. my only thing if the city is going to do this then they have to make money at it. they can't operate at a loss.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Here it comes, the first roadblock in the internet, setup by the federal govt. And a violation of states rights. The govt has no power to control personal communications, certainly not to tell cities that they cant make laws prohibiting govts from running their own ISPs. And Obama wants to make YOU pay more taxes for it.

    The result, much like with sewage, garbage, electricity, will be to drive private options out of business since govt can compete unfairly.



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    did you read something else other than your link and the onther info i read because its nothing like your fear, this is allowing municipalities to set up and improve thier OWN networks instead of being stuck with the utility companies doing it for them.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    how ,exactly, does this add competition to the telecom industry?
    well in ONE way it allows a company to just hook to the local infrastructure instead of having to build it.

    little guy might not have the money to make the while infrastructure but can do the rest so it allows the little guy to compete with the big guy
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    how ,exactly, does this add competition to the telecom industry?
    most cities only have 1 cable provider. it is contracted out by the city and awarded to 1 company.
    for internet you only have a few choices.

    if you are lucky then Uverse or fios might be in your area otherwise you are stuck with dsl or your cable company.
    for TV unless uverse or fios is around you are stuck with either satellite or cable.

    right now the price of speed vs what can be provided is way out of sync.
    that is why google punched all the telecom companies in the face with an upper cut.

    even right now they are attempting to stop google from expanding it's fiber network but it isn't working very well.
    by trying to limit right of way access on poles.

    why? they are charging a premium for slow speed bandwidth.

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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    I'm not opposed to training and information.. govt's being informed and trained on how best to partner with private firms is in our best interests....

    funding govt's to set up their own ISP's though?... nah, i'm not behind that at all.
    That is foolish, the incredibly positive economic impacts of improving infrastructure cannot be ignored. Just be government is doing something, doesn't mean you as a libertarian MUST hate it.
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    Re: Obama pushes broadband plan

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Considering the military requires servicemembers to have access to internet even while not on duty, I'd say it is becoming a public necessity.
    I would argue we crossed that line somewhere in the neighborhood of 2005. At least that's when I became completely, unambiguously aware that not having an internet connection completely crippled any ability to do business. That laws were actually passed to prevent municipalities from setting up broadband is now no less unconscionable than laws preventing them from providing electricity or telephone service. Unfortunately there's a holdover of thought that still looks at the internet as a luxury or even a toy rather than a vital utility.
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