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    China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city - CNN.com

    Beijing (CNN)Legislators in China's far-western Xinjiang province have passed a law to prohibit residents from wearing burqas in public, state media reported, in a continued campaign against what authorities view as religious extremism.

    The new ban in Urumqi was approved by local legislators last month, and given the greenlight by the regional legislature at the weekend.

    Is China ahead of the curve here? Breaking new ground? Or setting themselves up for more hatred and attacks?

    Would you support burqa bans in your country?
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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    The Irony in this ban is astounding. To counter Extremists who attack freedom of Expression, China bans a form of expression.

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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    The Irony in this ban is astounding. To counter Extremists who attack freedom of Expression, China bans a form of expression.
    Yep. 100% ironic.

    It's also a country/government doing "something" that's non-violent but also not just sitting idle and doing nothing.

    We've all witnessed how a small group of idiots can ruin a good thing for many.

    Perhaps, just perhaps, as more and more countries/governments start restricting things that really only effect the Islamic community, those in the Islamic community will start figuring out ways to real in some of their fringe fanatics. Maybe starting with some education about tolerating those who don't have the same religious beliefs?

    And yes, again, the irony.
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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Good for China.I support the ban on burqa.It's obviously a security issue.

    Can you imagine Hayat Boumediene wandering around wearing the burqa?

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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Yep. 100% ironic.

    It's also a country/government doing "something" that's non-violent but also not just sitting idle and doing nothing.
    And what is the punishment for not following this Burqa ban? Imprisonment, death? This is China we are talking about. Sure, China isn't going into Mosques with AKs and gunning down whoever is wearing a Burqa but this is threatening someone's right to express themselves. This is absolutely deplorable.

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    We've all witnessed how a small group of idiots can ruin a good thing for many.
    No not really; the Catholic Church still enjoys being called a pillar of morality despite the fact the Vatican actively tried to sweep the massive amount of Pedophilia committed by their Priests under the rug. Not that the Catholic Church has had anyone form Terrorist groups or-- oh wait, the Real Irish Republican Army is a thing and they fire bomb innocent people. Quick, ban crosses!


    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Perhaps, just perhaps, as more and more countries/governments start restricting things that really only effect the Islamic community, those in the Islamic community will start figuring out ways to real in some of their fringe fanatics. Maybe starting with some education about tolerating those who don't have the same religious beliefs?

    And yes, again, the irony.
    You can't just reel in Extremism, it's just not possible. ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Boko Haram, and the Taliban originated from places of great strife and war. Ever since Childhood all they've ever known is war, death, and that through their Religious beliefs and war they can prevent all of that. Your nearby Mosque in America has nothing in common with a group like ISIS. The Mosque nearest my home has never been firebombed, or hit with air strikes, it's never had to give away their children to become soldiers. They might have the same religious belief, but as far as the Taliban or ISIS is concerned, their is nothing the American Mosque or Muslim community could say to end their hatred and their violence.

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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    but this is threatening someone's right to express themselves.
    So do laws against nudity in public. (in most places)

    Is that "absolutely deplorable"?

    Same with restrictions against Westboro Baptists and funerals.

    Is that "absolutely deplorable"?

    The burqa in China can be worn in private places. Like the home. The church (mosque). Expression isn't oppressed as much as it's limited.

    You can walk around naked in your own house all you want. You can't go to the local shopping mall naked. Are you being denied your right to express yourself?
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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So do laws against nudity in public. (in most places)
    Nudity and Religious expression are two completely different things. Don't be so dishonest as to say otherwise.

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    Is that "absolutely deplorable"?
    No, it's irrelevant.

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    Same with restrictions against Westboro Baptists and funerals.
    WBC, still has all the rights to preach their vile and their hate. Private Funerals can bar and have the Westboro Church counter-protested out of town.

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    Is that "absolutely deplorable"?
    No one has banned the WBC from their first amendment rights. You're being ridiculous.

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    The burqa in China can be worn in private places. Like the home. The church (mosque). Expression isn't oppressed as much as it's limited.
    Right, and the French Magazine publishers could have drawn anything they wanted as long as they didn't publish it, right? You're validating one form of persecution while condemning another.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    You can walk around naked in your own house all you want. You can't go to the local shopping mall naked. Are you being denied your right to express yourself?
    Again, nudity isn't the same as Religious expression. Quit trying to compare the two.

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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Did France ban the burqa a few years ago?
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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Why ban the burqa? Should they ban hats? Wristbans?

    What attack has a burqa carried out?

    I don't think I get the reasoning.
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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Why ban the burqa? Should they ban hats? Wristbans?

    What attack has a burqa carried out?

    I don't think I get the reasoning.
    What if the French terrorists could've simply donned burqas, and melted into the crowd? Is that a good thing? Do you think driving a vehicle is safe while wearing a burqa?

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