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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

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    Mormons and born again Christians are a new phenomenon. So what? Who am I to say what another person really believes?
    Mormons and born-agains wear burkhas?
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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

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    ...born again Christians are a new phenomenon.
    Only if you ignore the Great Awakenings.

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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Even more irony...in context this is "progressive".

    Not that long ago it was illegal to practice ANY religion.
    The Chinese government persecutes Christians: China's Christians fear new persecution after latest wave of church demolitions | World news | The Guardian

    And it's trying to control the Catholics. From WaPo:

    Even those most optimistic, however, acknowledge that any rapprochement [between the Chinese government and the Catholic Church] would take much time and require a breakthrough on the conflict at the heart of the rift: which side has final say over who gets ordained in China.
    The Vatican maintains that the pope has sole authority in appointing bishops. China’s atheistic Communist Party — long distrustful of what it considers foreign religions — insists that only China should select its church leaders.

    The fight between two of the world’s most hierarchical and authority-driven powers has become so fraught that Chinese authorities have in some cases resorted to kidnapping bishops approved by Rome, according to the Vatican, and pressured them into laying their hands upon government-chosen bishops at their ordinations — a move meant to lend such ceremonies legitimacy despite Vatican opposition. For China

    Pope Francis denies Dalai Lama an audience because of China concerns | World news | The Guardian

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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

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    China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city - CNN.com




    Is China ahead of the curve here? Breaking new ground? Or setting themselves up for more hatred and attacks?

    Would you support burqa bans in your country?
    France did the same thing a while back didn't they?

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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    France did the same thing a while back didn't they?
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    Did France ban the burqa a few years ago?
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    I do recall hearing something about that a while back.

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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    I remember the old expression "when in Rome, do as the Romans do." I firmly believe that, if you decide to live in a country other than your native country, you should integrate yourself with the culture. In the case of muslims, the issue is more than just a matter cultural integration. It is also an issue of security. It makes sense to me that a country would pass laws designed to make life a little uncomfortable for those that refuse to integrate in the hopes of motivating them to go home. Personally, I would deport every resident from a muslim country that is not a citizen. That is obviously too extreme for almost everybody but it would certainly help with security. WE would only have to deal with the home grown terrorists. What China did is not as effective as that but is likely more acceptable. Integrate or leave. It actually makes sense to me.

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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Mormons and born-agains wear burkhas?
    No, but their religion is new. The argument that burkhas being new to Islam are not part of the religion and /or religious belief is therefore faulty, unless applicable to a large number of religions.

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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    No, but their religion is new. The argument that burkhas being new to Islam are not part of the religion and /or religious belief is therefore faulty, unless applicable to a large number of religions.
    Burkas came into the more advanced ares of Islam quite recently. Of course the burka is a way of separating people, to distinguish us from them, and to keep women in check. Am I the Only One Troubled By Cairo Street Scenes? :: The Phyllis Chesler Organization

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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Burkas came into the more advanced ares of Islam quite recently. Of course the burka is a way of separating people, to distinguish us from them, and to keep women in check. Am I the Only One Troubled By Cairo Street Scenes? :: The Phyllis Chesler Organization
    I don't really care what disturbs Phyllis. If that is the way folks want to worship it is none of Phyllis' affair.

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    Re: China bans wearing burqa in biggest Muslim city

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I don't really care what disturbs Phyllis. If that is the way folks want to worship it is none of Phyllis' affair.
    This wasn't about Phyllis, it was about the photos and your contention that this burka idea was an old one. We can see the changes which have come to Egypt and the photos should have made that apparent. If you'd prefer to see the photos on another website i can provide that as well.

    Is it your understanding that these graduate women chose to worship in burkas over those intervening years? That there was no religious pressure applied at all?

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