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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Even before Obama terrorism was on the rise...... How do you win a "war on terror" when the only thing its seems to be doing is increasing terror?
    So, we should just withdraw and allow ourselves, and our interests to be attacked, or taken eh? That's just foolish
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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    This war doesn't have an end to it, nor is there a real definition of who the enemy is.

    I don't have that much faith in the government. That's why I demand it present evidence when it wants to lock somebody up forever.
    The war is over when it is won. Period.
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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by d head View Post
    For all those who dislike these releases;
    What were they charged with?
    They were charged with being enemy combatants, amd terrorisim
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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Considering 1 in 3 of these people end up back on the battle, yep.
    I agree. All the releases do is return their fighters and in some cases leaders to raise havoc and kill other people once again. I would say any blood spilled by GITMO returnees or releases is directly on the president's hand. He could have prevented all this extra killing and maiming. But for politics, he didn't and doesn't. It is almost real close to condoning these acts.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by d head View Post
    I don't care what Islamists think , but we all should care what is in our own Constitution.
    Our constitutional protections only apply to people on this country's soil.
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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    They were charged with being enemy combatants, amd terrorisim
    Terrorism is a convictable criminal charge.
    If there was any evidence they would have been brought to trial.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by d head View Post
    Terrorism is a convictable criminal charge.
    If there was any evidence they would have been brought to trial.
    Then why hasn't Obama just released them all if they are all just innocent farmers and taxi drivers?
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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Our constitutional protections only apply to people on this country's soil.
    Not true;
    Susan Collins spreads central myth about the Constitution - Salon.com
    "It is indisputable...that the Constitution [protects both] citizens and foreigners." | Young Americans for Liberty
    In a 2009 Supreme Court decision,] none of the 9 Justices -- and, indeed, not even the Bush administration -- argued that the Constitution applies only to American citizens. That is such an inane, false, discredited proposition that no responsible person would ever make that claim....It is indisputable, well-settled Constitutional law that the Constitution restricts the actions of the Government with respect to both American citizens and foreigners. It's not even within the realm of mainstream legal debate to deny that.
    If a foreign national is arrested and accused by the U.S. Government of committing a crime, does anyone believe they can be sentenced to prison without a jury trial, denied the right to face their accusers, have their property seized without due process, be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment, and be denied access to counsel? ...Does anyone believe that [would be ok]? Would it be Constitutionally permissible to own foreigners as slaves on the ground that the protections of the Constitution -- including the Thirteenth Amendment -- apply only to Americans, not foreigner
    Our constitution declares that ALL men are created equal, not only American men.
    Either you support the principals of our constitution or you do not.
    The document only makes rights exceptions in the case of foriegners for voting and running for elected office.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then why hasn't Obama just released them all if they are all just innocent farmers and taxi drivers?
    Some have real evidence against them and pending trials.
    One can be detained at Gitmo on hearsay evidence and suspicion alone, but our constitution will not allow us to detain them indefinitely on that alone.
    Without formal charges and due process they must be released.
    If you don't like that idea, then you don't like our constitution.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    2 are self proclaimed jihadis. 2 are "possible members". 1 is "assed to be a member of Al-Qaeda".
    Yea, so I'm sure they'll just go back home and play nice from now on....not join up with any terror networks again....

    I wish I was taking the Naive pills that you have.

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