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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Ok so here is the hard part, at least for me. It is pretty well established that most of the time POWs do not get released until the end of a war. Sadly we are fighting a stateless war, so it can go on forever. That being the case I guess I could argue either side. Since this is a debate site I will go with the 3 who are members of the enemy should not be released. Harsh, but even in our courts there are some people who if they do a serious enough crime get life in jail as long as they are not minors. Some minors may even be treated that way. Another debate, but I have a hard time with that.
    The United States magnanimously decided to give the persons detained at Guantanamo the same privileges as to food, shelter, medical care, Red Cross inspections, etc. that prisoners of war are entitled to under the Geneva Convention. But they were NEVER prisoners of war. They were and are, instead, unlawful enemy combatants, and they were not entitled to ANY of the privileges of legitimate POW's. Unlawful enemy combatants, the best-known examples of which are probably spies and saboteurs, are commonly known as war criminals. Anyone who is unclear about these distinctions--and what they mean for the rights of the person in captivity--should read the "Nazi Saboteurs Case," Ex Parte Quirin, 317 U.S. 1 (1942), where the Supreme Court discussed them in detail.

    All the detainees at Guantanamo should long ago have been tried before military tribunals. Any who were found innocent should have been released. And every damned Islamic jihadist son of a whore who was convicted of war crimes should either have been imprisoned, or if his crimes were serious enough, marched onto a gallows, hooded, and had his greasy neck stretched--with the proceedings televised live around the world as a message to his friends. I hope that when this country finally gets a serious President, instead of the limpwristed leftist fop now disgracing the White House, whose heart is less with the country he is sworn to defend than with the Islamic supremacist monsters who want to destroy us, that new President will treat those monsters to regular and very large doses of vitamins B-1, B-2, and B-52.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    The United States magnanimously decided to give the persons detained at Guantanamo the same privileges as to food, shelter, medical care, Red Cross inspections, etc. that prisoners of war are entitled to under the Geneva Convention. But they were NEVER prisoners of war. They were and are, instead, unlawful enemy combatants, and they were not entitled to ANY of the privileges of legitimate POW's. Unlawful enemy combatants, the best-known examples of which are probably spies and saboteurs, are commonly known as war criminals. Anyone who is unclear about these distinctions--and what they mean for the rights of the person in captivity--should read the "Nazi Saboteurs Case," Ex Parte Quirin, 317 U.S. 1 (1942), where the Supreme Court discussed them in detail.

    All the detainees at Guantanamo should long ago have been tried before military tribunals. Any who were found innocent should have been released. And every damned Islamic jihadist son of a whore who was convicted of war crimes should either have been imprisoned, or if his crimes were serious enough, marched onto a gallows, hooded, and had his greasy neck stretched--with the proceedings televised live around the world as a message to his friends. I hope that when this country finally gets a serious President, instead of the limpwristed leftist fop now disgracing the White House, whose heart is less with the country he is sworn to defend than with the Islamic supremacist monsters who want to destroy us, that new President will treat those monsters to regular and very large doses of vitamins B-1, B-2, and B-52.
    It has reached the point where, if there is any evidence whatsoever that anyone who is participating in terrorism, or is planning a terrorist act, they should be eliminated right away. Handle it using much the same procedure as a search warrant.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Do you believe this is a criminal matter? If so you will always get the wrong answer.


    No, just the US constitution....
    and "wrong" answer by whose standards? Those trampling on it in the name of preserving it?

    Time to get real. How is Gitmo different than Auschwitz?
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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So many of them have been approved to sent out of Guantanamo, you wont give them a trial that the USSC has deemed they have a right to? But did you forget that during the military commissions many of those who were formally charged were acquitted? Did you also forget that 8 of 30 people brought in front of a military commission face actual charges? Can you carry this on beyond talking points?
    No. The supreme court did not have standing to decide this. It is best to disregard their noise.

    What are you talking about?

    I do not believe you know.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I have nothing to back up my words, so therefore.. OBAMA!!!
    I agree that you do not. I only hope that when they strike it will be against you and yours.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    No, just the US constitution....
    and "wrong" answer by whose standards? Those trampling on it in the name of preserving it?

    Time to get real. How is Gitmo different than Auschwitz?
    The Constitution has nothing to do with it.

    Nor does a death camp used to work people to death or otherwise murder them. It is time to remove your head from the very dark place it is currently in.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Under what basis are they being held by these other countries?

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Cleared for 5 years and finally being handed over. This has been long overdue and this facility closing is also long overdue. Keep this up![/FONT][/COLOR]
    Obama's letting more terrorists go so they can commit more acts of terror, huh?

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    Obama's letting more terrorists go so they can commit more acts of terror, huh?
    What part of "cleared for release five years ago" did you not bother to read?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    The United States magnanimously decided to give the persons detained at Guantanamo the same privileges as to food, shelter, medical care, Red Cross inspections, etc. that prisoners of war are entitled to under the Geneva Convention. But they were NEVER prisoners of war. They were and are, instead, unlawful enemy combatants, and they were not entitled to ANY of the privileges of legitimate POW's. Unlawful enemy combatants, the best-known examples of which are probably spies and saboteurs, are commonly known as war criminals. Anyone who is unclear about these distinctions--and what they mean for the rights of the person in captivity--should read the "Nazi Saboteurs Case," Ex Parte Quirin, 317 U.S. 1 (1942), where the Supreme Court discussed them in detail.

    All the detainees at Guantanamo should long ago have been tried before military tribunals. Any who were found innocent should have been released. And every damned Islamic jihadist son of a whore who was convicted of war crimes should either have been imprisoned, or if his crimes were serious enough, marched onto a gallows, hooded, and had his greasy neck stretched--with the proceedings televised live around the world as a message to his friends. I hope that when this country finally gets a serious President, instead of the limpwristed leftist fop now disgracing the White House, whose heart is less with the country he is sworn to defend than with the Islamic supremacist monsters who want to destroy us, that new President will treat those monsters to regular and very large doses of vitamins B-1, B-2, and B-52.
    Televised hangings? Last I checked, we weren't Saudi ****ing Arabia.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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