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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    A lot of these prisoners are just not let go free. Most of the time they are given to authorities. Very few are let go and to be free without restrictions. Most are let go with restrictions, be it surveillance, or actual prison itself.
    While I understand the words you wrote, hard to conceive the concept really works. We give a lot more than 12 years to a soldier who hands over embarrassing documents. If Obama was allowed to have these folks go to Federal court they would probably get life without parole. Lets face it, this is about closing the prison in Cuba not about what makes sense.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    When you say about time. Do you have any idea what landed these folks in prison? The article does not say.

    Funny that the same people who call putting people in a POW camp are inhumane while applaud drone strikes that kill the same type of people along with their families.
    Do you?

    Is there actual evidence of a crime?

    Or was there some hearsay that these guys once passed so other "terrorist suspects" on the street. The truth is you do not know, and neither does anyone else on this forum.

    As to convicting without proof as you have done, you reverse the burden of proof from the Anglo-Franco "innocent until proven otherwise" to the "Arabic standard of guilty until proven innocent.

    So, I do not see how, in any kind of reason or good conscience deliberately reverse the standard of proof and demand of those cheering this that they somehow offer some kind of evidence of the "crimes" these people are "reported" to have done, abandoning the democratic principle of onus of proof.

    I mean did the terrorists win and we do things their way or do we show some intestinal fortitude and stand by the basic democratic principles of which the US CLAIMS to be about? If so, try these people in a court of law, or let them go with financial compensation for the illegal detainment they have suffered.
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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Cleared for 5 years and finally being handed over. This has been long overdue and this facility closing is also long overdue. Keep this up![/FONT][/COLOR]


    Way, way overdue.

    I mean Obama said he would shut down this illegal [condemned by the UN] concentration camp starting seven years ago.

    just how do you preserve and hold safe democracy by abandoning the basic principle of innocent until proven guilty?
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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    While I understand the words you wrote, hard to conceive the concept really works. We give a lot more than 12 years to a soldier who hands over embarrassing documents. If Obama was allowed to have these folks go to Federal court they would probably get life without parole. Lets face it, this is about closing the prison in Cuba not about what makes sense.
    The thing is if we let them go to federal court we would have to give them the same rights US citizens get, but thats kinda hard to give them the same rights to someone who spent 10+ years denying those rights.... Hell thats the whole purpose of Guantanamo


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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    2 are self proclaimed jihadis. 2 are "possible members". 1 is "assed to be a member of Al-Qaeda".
    curious where you got that info from? I have been searching various sites - all I got was they were considered "not high risk" (my words)

    if you have any info/links it would be greatly appreciated if you'd post it -thanks

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The thing is if we let them go to federal court we would have to give them the same rights US citizens get, but thats kinda hard to give them the same rights to someone who spent 10+ years denying those rights.... Hell thats the whole purpose of Guantanamo
    I do agree there should be some kina trial. I'm not crazy about releasing Yemeni right now ( even to Oman/Estonia) ,,if you get that idea.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    curious where you got that info from? I have been searching various sites - all I got was they were considered "not high risk" (my words)

    if you have any info/links it would be greatly appreciated if you'd post it -thanks
    Wikileaks in their GITMO leak.


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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    They have been cleared for release. Does not matter "what landed you there". Hell being a brown taxi driver in the middle east landed someone there..


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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    That's OK. I am. I'll do it twice to make up for you.
    Please dont cheer twice, our own CIA says they are counterproductive

    Drone strikes counterproductive, says secret CIA report


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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Cleared for 5 years and finally being handed over. This has been long overdue and this facility closing is also long overdue. Keep this up![/FONT][/COLOR]
    Thank God we have Obama and the Democrats. Without them how would Al Qaeda replenish its top generals?

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