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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    They were charged with being enemy combatants, amd terrorisim
    Exactly. Enemy combatants are subject to Uniform Code of Military Justice, not the United States Constitution. The mere fact that Obama is treating this as a US citizen committing a crime, is quite sickening to anyone who served this country.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    Exactly. Enemy combatants are subject to Uniform Code of Military Justice, not the United States Constitution. The mere fact that Obama is treating this as a US citizen committing a crime, is quite sickening to anyone who served this country.
    Unless they can be charged as being enemy combatants or terrorists they can not be held indefinitely on suspicion alone. Only if such charges are brought do they come under military jurisdiction.
    Detainees may be at Gitmo because some informant said, I think he is one of the bad guys. Thats all it takes.
    If more evidence can not be mustered up then there is not enough to hold them indefinitely.
    The detainees are not protected by the constitution so much our government's actions against them are limited by it.
    Again, if you don't like it, you don't like the constitution you swore to defend if you served.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by d head View Post
    Unless they can be charged as being enemy combatants or terrorists they can not be held indefinitely on suspicion alone. Only if such charges are brought do they come under military jurisdiction.
    Detainees may be at Gitmo because some informant said, I think he is one of the bad guys. Thats all it takes.
    If more evidence can not be mustered up then there is not enough to hold them indefinitely.
    The detainees are not protected by the constitution so much our government's actions against them are limited by it.
    Again, if you don't like it, you don't like the constitution you swore to defend if you served.
    Can you cite me which article of the UCMJ you are stating in your first sentence? I am not calling you a liar, I just didn't see it. I was under the assumption that until the safety of our citizens was gauranteed DURING THE WAR (which we are technically still in), they can be held no matter what.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by d head View Post
    I don't care what Islamists think , but we all should care what is in our own Constitution.
    What does the Constitution says about terrorists who are trying to murder American citizens during a time of war?

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    Can you cite me which article of the UCMJ you are stating in your first sentence? I am not calling you a liar, I just didn't see it. I was under the assumption that until the safety of our citizens was gauranteed DURING THE WAR (which we are technically still in), they can be held no matter what.
    What war?

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What does the Constitution says about terrorists who are trying to murder American citizens during a time of war?
    Again. What war?
    Murder is a charge that can be brought at anytime against anyone. The released detainees were never charged.
    Last edited by d head; 01-20-15 at 12:16 PM.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by d head View Post
    Again. What war?
    You haven't heard about Americans, and Coalition troops, fighting a war in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as around the world? Perhaps you hadn't heard about this "War in Iraq", though it's hard to see how you could miss it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DpBwmN66As

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by d head View Post
    What war?
    Operation Enduring Freedom. It's a sanctioned war and international war against terrorism.

    Operation Enduring Freedom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Just because we aren't at war with an official government, doesn't mean it's not a sanctioned war.

    Nice try tho :-)

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    Operation Enduring Freedom. It's a sanctioned war and international war against terrorism.

    Operation Enduring Freedom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Just because we aren't at war with an official government, doesn't mean it's not a sanctioned war.

    Nice try tho :-)
    Yeah, but why the try? If it was just one person it would be easy to shrug off but there are plenty more like this out there.

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    Re: Five Yemenis transferred from U.S. custody at Guantanamo: Pentagon

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You haven't heard about Americans, and Coalition troops, fighting a war in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as around the world? Perhaps you hadn't heard about this "War in Iraq", though it's hard to see how you could miss it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DpBwmN66As
    What declared war?
    The things you site are military operations.

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