Last edited by Napoleon; 01-14-15 at 08:57 PM.
Even the liberal justices in the Mount Tabor Lutheran vs EEOC (also a fired secular subject teacher with very nominal religous duties) stated that the term "minister" is to be broady defined- though not absolute. They then proceeded to rule 9-0 against the teacher.
At the end of the day, I think even the progressive justices of SCOTUS is going to err on the side of the First Amendment for two reasons:
- Practical (Rule against us? OK, in the future every employee at this church or mosque will have a religous function of some sort)
- Philosophical reasons (churches, temples, etc, must be free to select their own represenatives for the First to have real meaning).
Concur, but OTOH...
Getting married to the babydaddy isn't necessarily always the right thing to do. I am very traditional and it is hard for me to admit that... but if the babydaddy is a meth-head couch potato living off disability in his parent's garage, she would do better to run away screaming than marry him... and maybe the church ought to exercise a smidge more compassion and a smidge less judgmentalism in such a case. JM0.02
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"I used to roll the dice; see the fear in my enemies' eyes... listen as the crowd would sing, 'now the old king is dead, Long Live the King.'.."
That being said, and this is off topic, but your post reminded me of it. My granddaughters are ages 7 and 10 now, and they were here last weekend, and watching one of their "regular" television programs, on one of the kid tv channels. I happened to be walking by during a particular segment of the program they were watching, when I noticed that the subject of discussion on the program was "baby-daddy". I was very disheartened that the concept itself has become so casually normal.
"God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
-C G Jung
I think it's fair for the church to fire her. I believe they are within their rights as a religious institution, but I think it's wrong on a personal level. It is frustrating to see a group of people so committed to pro life values also play a role in stigmatizing and shaming unwed girls for conceiving. If the girl got an abortion, she could have kept her job and nobody would know.
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- Alexander Hamilton. Spiritual father of #NeverTrump
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