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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The pastor sees the gay lifestyle as a sin against his God. What part of that can't you grasp?
    He made it known to the deceased's family that he could not celebrate that part of her life.
    They refused to abide by his wishes and did so anyway which shows no respect for the one they want to perform a Christian funeral.
    But then again this group had to resort to the Internet to find a pastor because between the two families and hundreds of friends they couldn't come up with the name of a pastor on their own. Go figure.
    Who cares if they couldn't come up with a name of a pastor. If he did not want them to celebrate her life he should not have agreed to perform the funeral in the first place. To interrupt it mid-stream again shows a cruelty not befitting a minister. You can say the family agreed to certain conditions all you want but even they probably could not control the situation. If you have a funeral for someone in our culture that is supposed to be a celebration of their life. You cannot celebrate someones life without showing them in their happiest moments. I don't know about you but my happiest moments include my wife. To celebrate my life is to celebrate my life with her. Any pastor worth **** would know that and would know there is now way anyone could honor such an onerous condition as he applied.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooda View Post
    Some Rabbis conferred on this issue and decided that if man was made in the image of God... He also made gay people. The pastor is an unforgiving creep.
    The pastor agreed to do the funeral and offered his church as long as the family understood he could not celebrate her same sex relationship. He seems to have spoke to the family enough to learn about the deceased so he could give a Eulogy that highlighted the good in her life. Yet those who hired him could not respect him enough on his beliefs to follow through on his wishes. If anyone is a creep it is those who have no respect for others beliefs or wishes and expected him to turn over the sanctuary that he shepherds and compromise his beliefs to suit them. Now that's what I call a real creep.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The pastor agreed to do the funeral and offer his church as long as the family understood he could not celebrate her same sex relationship. He seems to have spoke to the family enough to learn about the deceased so he could give a Eulogy that highlighted the good in her life. Yet those who hired him could not respect him enough on his beliefs to follow through on his wishes. If anyone is a creep it is those who have no respect for others beliefs or wishes and expect him to turn over the sanctuary that he shepherds and compromise his beliefs to suit them. Now that's what I call a real creep.
    Were all the people who loved her also gay? I think a pastor.. or any of us.. could err on the side of kindness and compassion.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooda View Post
    Were all the people who loved her also gay? I think a pastor.. or any of us.. could err on the side of kindness and compassion.
    And compromise his beliefs in the process? I don't think so. I think he showed much kindness. Unfortunately it was not returned.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    And compromise his beliefs in the process? I don't think so. I think he showed much kindness. Unfortunately it was not returned.
    I don't care about his "beliefs".. I think he's a perfectly righteous pill.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    Who cares if they couldn't come up with a name of a pastor. If he did not want them to celebrate her life he should not have agreed to perform the funeral in the first place. To interrupt it mid-stream again shows a cruelty not befitting a minister. You can say the family agreed to certain conditions all you want but even they probably could not control the situation. If you have a funeral for someone in our culture that is supposed to be a celebration of their life. You cannot celebrate someones life without showing them in their happiest moments. I don't know about you but my happiest moments include my wife. To celebrate my life is to celebrate my life with her. Any pastor worth **** would know that and would know there is now way anyone could honor such an onerous condition as he applied.
    Excuse me but the pastor told them ahead of time if they wanted him to officiate the funeral in his church, the same sex relationship could not be celebrated. Those who hired him did not honor that. If the family was not happy with the agreement, they could have sought someone else to do the service. They did not. If they wanted the same sex relationship highlighted in the service, they should have chose someone that was willing to do so.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Stay classy fundamentalists!

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Excuse me but the pastor told them ahead of time if they wanted him to officiate the funeral in his church, the same sex relationship could not be celebrated. Those who hired him did not honor that. If the family was not happy with the agreement, they could have sought someone else to do the service. They did not. If they wanted the same sex relationship highlighted in the service, they should have chose someone that was willing to do so.
    Again that "pastor" should have realised, as any normal person would, that this would be an onerous condition that could not possibly be enforced even if the family wanted it be enforced. Someone would have brought a picture of her and her wife together. Why is that so hard to understand? I am not saying the "pastor" wasn't within his rights to do what he did. He was, however, everyone should denounce him as the cruel bastard he is for doing what he did.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    I think this is excellent evidence as to why society cannot trust religious institutions with important parts of our lives. What does a funeral need a church or a preacher for? This pompous man has decided its his place to hurt a grieving family. Religious bigots picket funerals and hurt other mourners. Secular principles don't lead people to do this kind of thing. This is just one more thing that religion perverts.
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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    Again that "pastor" should have realised, as any normal person would, that this would be an onerous condition that could not possibly be enforced even if the family wanted it be enforced. Someone would have brought a picture of her and her wife together. Why is that so hard to understand? I am not saying the "pastor" wasn't within his rights to do what he did. He was, however, everyone should denounce him as the cruel bastard he is for doing what he did.
    So you want to call him a "cruel bastard" because he refused to go against what his faith teaches just to appease a few?
    Even after he made it known that his church could not be used as a means to celebrate a same sex union?
    Wow.....just wow.

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