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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    That's a lie painted with such a broad brush that it would take more than two hands to hold it.
    The Church, and I mean the body of believers not a denomination, is not viewed as a house for Saints but rather a hospital for Sinners. You will never experience forgiveness in this world like you do among true believers.
    As shown by this fine Christian pastor.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I never said the church couldnt do it. I pointed out why it was selective, intolerant in the face of tolerance of other sins, and cruel.
    I disagree. In order for it to be 'selective' they would have to allow pictures of a junkie with a needle in his vein, or an alcoholic throwing down a fifth, or an adulterer hooked up in a 3 some. Homosexuality is, to them, the sinful behavior. Celebrate the individual...but dont endorse the sinful behavior. And for those that dont believe it is a sinful behavior, happily find a place more agreeable to your beliefs to hold the ceremony. Life is good, easy solution.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The church's actions stand for themselves. All we need do is watch and be thankful we don't live under theocratic rule.
    What's with the we, got a mouse in your pocket? You can watch all you want and you'll always see just what YOU want to see.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Private property, they can do what they want.
    You are confusing "can" with "should"....there are a lot of things that people "Can" do....but just because you can doesn't always mean that you should.....just sayin.
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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Your problems and hatred of religion aren't the issue here. You won't be asking for a Christian burial now will you?
    Not hatred...gratitude...that I don't live under theocratic rule. What the church has demonstrated is a microcosm of society in their own image if given complete power.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Look, I could understand the pastor refusing to do the funeral when they first approached him. But if he has this kind of bias, he should do the homework up front to find out if the dead person is gay or not.

    Once the funeral is underway - there is no way he should have stopped and demanded that that pictures be removed. That is a gross dereliction of his pastoral duties in my opinion.

    Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay - The Denver Post
    Uhh. I'm not going to even claim I'd understand if the guy said no to giving the Eulogy.

    Funerals are not for the deceased.

    And for a minister to say no based on that individuals lifestyle choices - that's just ridiculous. Is a minister supposed to be a leader that follows the path of God or a piece of ****?

    My father would not have said no - I know that much.
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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And that's why the most terrifying thing I can think of is for religious people to determine anything about my life "for my own good." What religious fundamentalists will do to other human beings under the guise of "merciful" and "for their own good" is the strongest reason for a secular political system I can think of. If it weren't for the behavior of the church in this regard and the one with the pregnant daycare employee Americans might forget that, and so the church has done us all an enormous favor.
    You want to cherry pick incidences and paint everyone with the same brush. You can't get more unfair than that. The true believer is in the business of forgiveness because their Lord taught them to be.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Seems a little misleading, it appears that the church asked them not to display pictures of her and her "wife" in the church, which is a completely reasonable request for a religious institution to ask those using their space not to portray items items or things that promote what the church believes is sinful. They didn't shut down the funeral, those attending decided to move it because they refused to comply.
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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I disagree. In order for it to be 'selective' they would have to allow pictures of a junkie with a needle in his vein, or an alcoholic throwing down a fifth, or an adulterer hooked up in a 3 some. Homosexuality is, to them, the sinful behavior. Celebrate the individual...but dont endorse the sinful behavior. And for those that dont believe it is a sinful behavior, happily find a place more agreeable to your beliefs to hold the ceremony. Life is good, easy solution.
    I gave similar examples, except mine were more ambiguous...as is kissing someone. Kissing someone is not inherently sinful....is there lust inherent in kisses? No. If the congregation chooses to attach that value to it then it's no different than them attaching sin to a woman kissing a man not her husband or someone toasting friends (in a congregation against drinking).
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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Somehow....I think if Jesus were sitting at this funeral he would have been appalled at the actions of this pastor.....just sayin.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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