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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    Which stipulations? Where is such stipulation mentioned?
    Apparently the family was told that he did not want anything "celebrating a homosexual lifestyle" as part of the service.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

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    I have no idea. I'm not the one making claims that I speak for God.
    Sigh....

    You state the book is not the work of God. OK. Is there a God? If not...consistent...OK...I can dig that. If so...where did you learn of this God?

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I think stopping a funeral in this way is hideous. But openly defying the agreement created the problem.
    The OP's article does not say that they were told in advance that they could not reveal that the dead person was a lesbian. Anyone who claims that based on the linked article is lying.

    "Friends say they gave the church a remembrance video of Collier a week before that contained images of her kissing and embracing her wife. The pastor had every chance to stop the funeral long before it began, they said."
    Family: Church in Lakewood stops woman's funeral because she was gay - The Denver Post

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    After it was begun. Again showing a wantonness because he (the pastor) does not like the gay lifestyle. Whether or not the family agreed to limiting certain aspects of her lifestyle or not is beside the point. The "pastor" should have known that pictures celebrating her life were going to include pictures with her chosen mate. If he did not want them displayed in his church he should not have agreed to the funeral in the first place. By allowing it to start and then trying to stop it after it began because of a few pictures that show her with her mate is again wantonness. I am not saying he didn't have the right to do it. I am saying everyone should decry him as the cruel bastard he has shown himself to be.
    Well said.

    He should have just refused in the first place. Restricting pictures of the dead person with her spouse is cruel. And denying the funeral at the last minute is just - wrong.

    Stressful enough having someone you love die. But then to have this happen at the funeral. Awful.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Go back, read the whole OP and then the thread thus far. The info is there. The pastor knew of their gay marriage a week before the funeral. Rules were laid down. The pictures were brought in by the family and when the pastor asked for them to be taken down before he proceeded, they moved the whole shebang rather than follow the rules.
    Quote the section of the OP's article that says the rules were stated in advance.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You are extremely confused about my position, so I'll try again: I'm not advocating that religious fundamentalists with warped views of love and compassion share my morality, because I'm fully cognizant such a thing is impossible. No, I'll settle for religious fundamentalists being extremely upfront and honest about their worldview so we can all be reminded why secular societies are superior to theocracies. It's also why I'm always happy any time a pro-lifer publicly states that a woman should have the rapist's baby.

    If you're still confused I'd be happy to bulletpoint my beliefs using shorter sentences.
    You're making perfect sense to me. Not sure why Vesper isn't getting it.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The article in the OP doesn't not say there was a pre arranged deal.
    That is what has come out in the thread, as people dove more into it.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yes. Because he had clearly said that he could not allow the church to be used to celebrate the homosexual lifestyle, specifically in the manner that they tried to. That was part of the deal - "Yes, we can do the funeral. But in order to hold true to our beliefs, we cannot do A, B, or C". They broke the deal.


    To shift it to a much more mundane example, if I were to ask to come into your house, and you were to reply "certainly, only take off those muddy boots please", and my reply was to stomp into your house with my boots on and wipe them off on your carpet.... I can't exactly complain when you ask me to leave that you are somehow being cruel to me. You let me into your house and I refused to follow the rules you asked me to.
    Lie. The OP's linked article does not say that they were given a warning in advance.

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Apparently the family was told that he did not want anything "celebrating a homosexual lifestyle" as part of the service.
    Where is the proof that he told them ahead of time?

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    Re: Family: Lakewood church stops woman's funeral because she was gay

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    No, it's not in the link in the OP. If there is another site, then link that site. The link in the OP also says that the pastor has not reimbursed the family after stopping the funeral and kicking them out.
    If anyone needed evidence as to whether conservative/fundamentalist Christians are liars or not, the proof is in this thread. They lie.

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