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    Re: 2 Albuquerque Officers Charged With Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    The video tells us his death was due to getting shot. That's pretty clear.

    There's nothing in an autopsy that'll make that go away.
    I wouldn't be too sure about that.

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    Re: 2 Albuquerque Officers Charged With Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    The video tells us his death was due to getting shot. That's pretty clear.

    There's nothing in an autopsy that'll make that go away.
    The video did not, not that I could see. Those are the kind of assumptions that lead to silliness in discussions and lack of credibility. It's the kind of assumption that allows crap like Ferguson to occur.

    Please tell me how you know he was shot with live ammunition in the video?
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    Re: 2 Albuquerque Officers Charged With Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The video did not, not that I could see. Those are the kind of assumptions that lead to silliness in discussions and lack of credibility. It's the kind of assumption that allows crap like Ferguson to occur.

    Please tell me how you know he was shot with live ammunition in the video?
    Because we know he was shot and killed. That's already been reported.

    What would an autopsy say that'll change that?
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    Re: 2 Albuquerque Officers Charged With Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Because we know he was shot and killed. That's already been reported.

    What would an autopsy say that'll change that?
    You said 'the video' shows it. Now you are changing your story. We didnt know that the video even showed his death....only what led up to it. Also didnt know if he was shot from the front or in the back....important info.
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    Re: 2 Albuquerque Officers Charged With Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    This should be interesting.

    2 Albuquerque Officers Charged With Murder in March Shooting - ABC News

    "Two Albuquerque police officers were charged with murder Monday in the shooting death of a knife-wielding homeless man that led to violent protests and brought new scrutiny to the police department amid a federal investigation.

    The decision to bring murder charges occurred at a time when police tactics are under intense review nationwide, fueled by the fatal shooting of an unarmed 18-year-old in Ferguson, Missouri, and the chokehold death of another unarmed man in New York City. Grand juries declined to charge officers in those cases, leading to large protests.

    Acknowledging the frustration over the secrecy of the proceedings in those cases, the Albuquerque district attorney said she would bypass the grand jury process and instead present the murder case to a judge at a preliminary hearing that will be open to the public.

    "Unlike Ferguson and unlike in New York City, we're going to know. The public is going to have that information," District Attorney Kari Brandenburg said."

    I don't know all the facts of this case, and I am no real fan of Brandenburg, but I think she's right here. Let's keep this as public as possible so there is no question about what actually went down. I wonder if Eric Holder's boys will be showing up here? How about Sharpton and Jackson? Are we to be treated to their rantings? Will these two police officers be tried, convicted, and sentenced in the media as has happened elsewhere? Are we to have riots on the city streets?
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    Re: 2 Albuquerque Officers Charged With Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You said 'the video' shows it. Now you are changing your story. We didnt know that the video even showed his death....only what led up to it. Also didnt know if he was shot from the front or in the back....important info.
    LOL... the title of the video says what happened! WTF are you talking about?

    How exactly is where he was shot important info?

    And for the 3rd time - What would an autopsy say that'll change that?
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    Re: 2 Albuquerque Officers Charged With Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Hmmm

    The criminal charges were the first Brandenburg has brought against officers in a shooting. She is in her fourth term as district attorney and is waging a fight with the Albuquerque Police Department over allegations that she committed bribery while intervening on behalf of her son in a burglary case.

    Police believe she should be charged with bribery because, they say, she offered to pay a victim not to press charges. The attorney general's office is handling the matter.

    Brandenburg said the charges against police had nothing to with the agency's investigation into her and that her office got the case long before the bribery claims came to light.


    That's a bit of a wrinkle.

    I can't watch any of the videos on the shooting itself on this computer but I've read all the posts in here so far and it seems that most posters think this was overkill or overreaction by the police? It will be interesting to see what happens here. Murder? Highly unlikely, but I'll bet the officers will be charged with something.
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    Re: 2 Albuquerque Officers Charged With Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    LOL... the title of the video says what happened! WTF are you talking about?

    How exactly is where he was shot important info?

    And for the 3rd time - What would an autopsy say that'll change that?
    Good display of a lack of understanding of use of lethal force and self-defense.

    Esp. odd since you were aware of the questions from the Ferguson case and the impact of the autopsy results.

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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: 2 Albuquerque Officers Charged With Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Dont be such a alarmist, That wasnt camping that place is a party spot where a bunch of people from El paso and Albuquerque show up and get into fights. At certain times of the year it has a bunch of wannabe spring break kids running around.

    But yea this is a scary place be sure not to come here. lol
    I lived in NM for 5 years, only had one run in with a wannabe campground host and ranger.

    People from El Paso are the problem, I heard Texans were a big problem in New Mexico, they also drive like there's no tomorrow,

    NM should hang signage saying they're unfriendly to anyone from out of state. I do know that NM state troopers are bigger dickheads than anywhere I've ever visited, except for Alabama, and those take the cake.

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    Re: 2 Albuquerque Officers Charged With Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Good display of a lack of understanding of use of lethal force and self-defense.
    I won't speak for him, but I agree in that if the autopsy had indicated he was shot in the lower stomach or chest (instead of clearly being shot in the BACK), it wouldn't make this a righteous shooting. '

    The fact that the fatal bullet was through his lower back makes what is a terrible case for the shooters worse, but not much more than that.

    I suppose if he'd died from striking his head on a rock, that would change the facts enough to affect the conclusion, but given he was killed by gunshots, I don't see any way to look at the video and conclude those shots should have been fired.

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