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    Re: Romney moves to reassemble campaign apparatus for 2016

    That 47% remark was so bad it could sink him twice. There is a movement in the U.S. that is very unhappy with wealth distribution and that remark is diametrically opposed to it. Nobody in the middle class or lower should vote for him because he does not have their best interests in mind, he cares only for the wealthy "job creators".

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    Re: Romney moves to reassemble campaign apparatus for 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So the 47% of people who don't pay federal income tax are all people "who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it"? And you wonder why poor people think conservatives are dicks.

    His words require no interpretation. IT IS WHAT HE SAID. Period. Discussion ****ing over.
    Sorry if you can't comprehend that there are two groups that happen to be at the 47% level. There is undoubtedly, as he stated, 47% of the electorate that were going to vote for Obama no matter what. All the polls showed this. The election was a very narrow one. And he's right - these people are bought and paid for by Democrats. They represent those in society who want bigger government, bigger handouts from government and they want government to rape the rich and successful to pay for more benefits to the rest. It's the entire reason for Democrats to exist - what can government give me next?

    Then there's the portion of the American people who don't pay federal income taxes - also, coincidentally, around the 47% mark. And as he said, the 47% who pay no federal income taxes aren't going to be interested in a message that says when President, Romney will work to reduce federal income taxes. If you pay no taxes, lower tax rates affect you not one bit so you don't care.

    You and the media twist the message to mean that both groups of 47% represent the same people - they don't. But it was a good trick and Romney's words were open to being used against him and they were, quite effectively. That's what's incontrovertibly true.
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    Re: Romney moves to reassemble campaign apparatus for 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It is not bull****, unless you're a brain dead sycophant. Obama used the same phrase "act of terror" when giving a speech at the memorial for those who were killed in the Colorado movie theater shootings. Was Obama claiming that the Colorado shootings were terrorism? No. Obama refuses, perhaps to this day, to use the words terrorism or terrorists in the same sentence as any that references Islam or Muslims. He refused to refer to the murders in Benghazi as terrorism because it didn't fit with their line about it being a "protest" about a video.

    Crowley flat out lied by claiming the President called it terrorism. As you like to say, that's incontrovertible fact.
    Who gives a **** what he said? I am pretty sure the voting public didn't care one iota.


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    Re: Romney moves to reassemble campaign apparatus for 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    An "act of terror" isn't "terrorism." Interesting.
    It isn't. I thought you were smart enough to understand that.

    If a child gets kidnapped and held in a basement, raped and mutilated, that's an act of terror against the child and his/her family and perhaps society as a whole. Terrorism, in contrast, is an act designed to affect change in government action. The Oklahoma City bombings was terrorism - 9/11 was terrorism - beheadings in Iraq/Syria is terrorism - all designed to give the government pause and to have average citizens speak out against their government's policies and actions.

    Hope that's clear for you now.
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    Re: Romney moves to reassemble campaign apparatus for 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So the 47% of people who don't pay federal income tax are all people "who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it"? And you wonder why poor people think conservatives are dicks.

    His words require no interpretation. IT IS WHAT HE SAID. Period. Discussion ****ing over.
    That is not all of what he said.

    ...And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax.
    He was discussing the political reality concerning income tax cuts as a policy appealing to voters. If you now pay no income tax then income tax cuts have no political appeal to you.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Romney moves to reassemble campaign apparatus for 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Who gives a **** what he said? I am pretty sure the voting public didn't care one iota.
    And you're smart enough to know the actual words were irrelevant at that point - the issue was that Crowley entered the debate on the issue and lied for the President in order to protect him. The voting public, many of which are ignorant of the facts, and those who saw the multiple replays of the exchange but didn't watch the debate, only saw that the media said Romney was wrong and the President was right - the exact opposite of the truth. But it suited your purposes, so who gives a ****, right?
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    Re: Romney moves to reassemble campaign apparatus for 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It isn't. I thought you were smart enough to understand that.

    If a child gets kidnapped and held in a basement, raped and mutilated, that's an act of terror against the child and his/her family and perhaps society as a whole. Terrorism, in contrast, is an act designed to affect change in government action. The Oklahoma City bombings was terrorism - 9/11 was terrorism - beheadings in Iraq/Syria is terrorism - all designed to give the government pause and to have average citizens speak out against their government's policies and actions.

    Hope that's clear for you now.

    Mornin CJ. Fact check Org had it down with what BO said. Here was what the leftists forgot all about, when BO was asked why he didn't use the word Terrorism.


    ◾Obama said he used the term “act of terrorism” a day after the attack. Not exactly. He said “acts of terror” and “act of terror.” Also that day, the president said he did not use the word “terrorism” because “it’s too early to know exactly how this came about.” Over the next several days, he would repeat that the attack began as a protest of an anti-Muslim video and spiraled out of control.

    Between the morning speech and the evening fundraiser, Obama spoke to CBS News reporter Steve Kroft of “60 Minutes.” Kroft noted that “you went out of your way to avoid the use of the word terrorism in connection with the Libya attack.” Obama said, “Right.” Asked why, the president said that “it’s too early to know exactly how this came about.”.....snip~


    Benghazi Attack, Revisited

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    Re: Romney moves to reassemble campaign apparatus for 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And you're smart enough to know the actual words were irrelevant at that point - the issue was that Crowley entered the debate on the issue and lied for the President in order to protect him. The voting public, many of which are ignorant of the facts, and those who saw the multiple replays of the exchange but didn't watch the debate, only saw that the media said Romney was wrong and the President was right - the exact opposite of the truth. But it suited your purposes, so who gives a ****, right?
    I think Candy Crowley was wrong for injecting herself in the debate. But she was correct, Romney used the words "act of terror" himself and he said the President didn't say them. Again, what the President said or didn't say was of little consequence. Watch the video.



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    Re: Romney moves to reassemble campaign apparatus for 2016

    He's like that crazy ex-girlfriend that just won't go away.
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    Re: Romney moves to reassemble campaign apparatus for 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I think Candy Crowley was wrong for injecting herself in the debate. But she was correct, Romney used the words "act of terror" himself and he said the President didn't say them. Again, what the President said or didn't say was of little consequence. Watch the video.
    Nearly 3 years later, we find Obama still has a hard time using certain words, as does his administrations hired speakers. Obama clearly did not say "terrorism" - hasn't this been debunked about a dozen times already and here we are, with yet a fresh attempt.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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