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Dish Drops Two Fox Channels

tres borrachos said:
My husband would panic if he didn't get to see Kimberly Guilfoyle's legs too.
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I wonder if she charges by the hour, or do you have to purchase the entire night?
 
But Dish really does suck.

A few years back, I was a Dish subscriber.

I was moving back to where I'm living now. I had no contract with Dish, I only agreed to return their equipment (the box) when I decided to terminate their services.

I put their equipment into the original box, and fedex'd it to the address given to me by a customer service representative upon calling to terminate (barely spoke English-BTW)

One month later, I had a charge on my debit account for $350 by Dish.

After numerous phone calls, and supplying Dish CS with the tracking number, they credited my debit account. During the time I was charged for not returning their equipment, my bank charged me $35 for an overdrawn fee because at the time I didn't have $350 in my account,

so yeah, In My Opinion, Dish does suck, and you'll never be able to get a person who understands English when you call their customer service.

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Top Cat said:
Fox has set out on a campaign of blatant lies. There's a huge difference.
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Once again....so? I think you're expecting me to think this is a major calamity and Fox is causing some damage to peoples' lives here. They aren't.
 
tres borrachos said:
Once again....so? I think you're expecting me to think this is a major calamity and Fox is causing some damage to peoples' lives here. They aren't.
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Nope. Just thought you were v\capable of calling a spade a spade.
 
Fiddytree said:
They are fighting over money. Chances are, I would guess Dish is going to lose out on its desired amount and will have to settle for less.
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Obviously it is about money. They will probably work something out in the near future. Both companies benefit from the channel being broadcast by DISH. It is just a matter of who gets what and for how much.
 
Wait a minute, I was under the impression that FoxNews is no longer on Dish because they could not agree on terms. What is with all this "censorship" bull****?
 
Top Cat said:
Dish Drops Two Fox Channels - WSJ

Not "breaking" news per se, but I have noticed Fox is now currently running commercials with Bill O'Reilly here (Seattle) claiming DTV is censoring what viewers are seeing. A total lie. Typical Fox Noise.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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Ah, Dish can do what Dish wants. I get my news from both Fox and CNN. But if my cable provider dropped one or the other it wouldn't be no big thing.
 
whysoserious said:
Cracks me up. I'll really enjoy it when people jump ship from cable and start streaming everything, and the ILECs throttle Fox News' videos to users unless they and the users pony up. We'll see how Fox News feels about NN then.
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Well, NN won't actually help the smaller content providers as it has no way to wall off internet traffic to keep Netflix from eating all the bandwidth.
 
jmotivator said:
Well, NN won't actually help the smaller content providers as it has no way to wall off internet traffic to keep Netflix from eating all the bandwidth.
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That would be a free market of traffic. How much more conservative can you get? Bandwidth will be used by your site if you provide good content. I am not really aware that bandwidth is being choked all that much - even with bit torrent and Netflix type data transfers.

Though I don't see why anyone would be for data throttling based off of website anyway. If bandwidth usage was such a problem, I am not sure why that wouldn't be handled via large data caps, as it would really only be effected by users who are running servers and doing massive downloads. I'm sure a 10 TB monthly cap (that you could pay extra for if you needed more) would work for 99% of people.
 
whysoserious said:
That would be a free market of traffic. How much more conservative can you get? Bandwidth will be used by your site if you provide good content. I am not really aware that bandwidth is being choked all that much - even with bit torrent and Netflix type data transfers.

Though I don't see why anyone would be for data throttling based off of website anyway. If bandwidth usage was such a problem, I am not sure why that wouldn't be handled via large data caps, as it would really only be effected by users who are running servers and doing massive downloads. I'm sure a 10 TB monthly cap (that you could pay extra for if you needed more) would work for 99% of people.
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Not really the place to discuss the subject, but the internet is not sufficient to guarantee anywhere close to a 10tb cap for users. That is the equivalent of a constant connect at about 4mbps which would cost you $700+/month. Most US service providers have an unpublished cap on your service closer to 150gb.
 
jmotivator said:
Not really the place to discuss the subject, but the internet is not sufficient to guarantee anywhere close to a 10tb cap for users. That is the equivalent of a constant connect at about 4mbps which would cost you $700+/month. Most US service providers have an unpublished cap on your service closer to 150gb.
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I will yield to you a bit on this, as I am no SME on the topic of bandwidth. Aren't most lines, especially in non-rural areas, somewhat dedicated at this point? Obviously DSL is, but aren't the fiber optic lines offered by U-Verse and Fios dedicated as well?
 
whysoserious said:
I will yield to you a bit on this, as I am no SME on the topic of bandwidth. Aren't most lines, especially in non-rural areas, somewhat dedicated at this point? Obviously DSL is, but aren't the fiber optic lines offered by U-Verse and Fios dedicated as well?
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No, all internet service relies of over provisioning to make it marketable. You can pay for 100mbs Fios but it is on the unstated expectation that your average usage over a month will be FAR below 100mbs (usually the expected average use is closer to a 56k modem then it is to even 1mbs). People who far exceed that average rate will eventually hit their monthly data cap that they never knew they signed up for.

This is why a business that needs full time 24/7 bandwidth appears to pay way to much for internet.

So, for instance (in simple terms), an ISP will sell 100 people a FIOS internet connection at a speed of 100mbs on the assumption that the average per customer will actually be 1mbs over the course of the month. That way each person pays $100, for a total of $10,000 paid for 100mbs of total bandwidth to the internet and the ISP pays $7500 to the Core Internet provider for the lease. If a company needs a full, guaranteed 100mbs of FIOS for 24/7 data replication they would pay $10,000 for the service to get the guaranteed bandwidth.
 
Top Cat said:
Dish Drops Two Fox Channels - WSJ

Not "breaking" news per se, but I have noticed Fox is now currently running commercials with Bill O'Reilly here (Seattle) claiming DTV is censoring what viewers are seeing. A total lie. Typical Fox Noise.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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I've seen that commercial too. Since the average Fox viewer buys wholeheartedly into the fact that everything is a liberal conspiracy to keep conservatives down, no doubt some of them believe it. Usually this sort of thing is a money issue - usually it's the channel asking for more money from the cable or sattelite provider.
 
jmotivator said:
No, all internet service relies of over provisioning to make it marketable. You can pay for 100mbs Fios but it is on the unstated expectation that your average usage over a month will be FAR below 100mbs (usually the expected average use is closer to a 56k modem then it is to even 1mbs). People who far exceed that average rate will eventually hit their monthly data cap that they never knew they signed up for.

This is why a business that needs full time 24/7 bandwidth appears to pay way to much for internet.

So, for instance (in simple terms), an ISP will sell 100 people a FIOS internet connection at a speed of 100mbs on the assumption that the average per customer will actually be 1mbs over the course of the month. That way each person pays $100, for a total of $10,000 paid for 100mbs of total bandwidth to the internet and the ISP pays $7500 to the Core Internet provider for the lease. If a company needs a full, guaranteed 100mbs of FIOS for 24/7 data replication they would pay $10,000 for the service to get the guaranteed bandwidth.
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What of these companies starting to come out with 10gbps connections? They are expensive for now, sure, but one could expect the price to drop. Are we not assuming that bandwidth is going to continue growing at a rate to keep up with demand?

(Thanks for the info, FYI. It's rare to discuss with someone who is really knowledgeable on a subject)
 
Top Cat said:
Dish Drops Two Fox Channels - WSJ

Not "breaking" news per se, but I have noticed Fox is now currently running commercials with Bill O'Reilly here (Seattle) claiming DTV is censoring what viewers are seeing. A total lie. Typical Fox Noise.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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Meh. I don't even have cable or dish any more. I can get news from Fox or anyone by streaming it. If I want to watch the Superbowl I'll just go to a sports bar or something.
 
Top Cat said:
Fox is accusing DTV of censoring them. It's a blatant bold faced lie.
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How many times were you allowed to spew this nonsense without someone calling you out on it? Umm, prey tell what lie did they tell, can you provide a link? The add I saw said NOTHING about censoring FOX, NOTHING.


Tim-
 
Hicup said:
How many times were you allowed to spew this nonsense without someone calling you out on it? Umm, prey tell what lie did they tell, can you provide a link? The add I saw said NOTHING about censoring FOX, NOTHING.


Tim-
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Nonsense my ass.
 
Meh, FN will spin it to be censorship. It's financial, all about the money. Also a sign that Dish is a distant #2 against cable and seemingly determined to stay that way. S'okay, it's a ****ty service anyway.
 
Top Cat said:
Dish Drops Two Fox Channels - WSJ

Not "breaking" news per se, but I have noticed Fox is now currently running commercials with Bill O'Reilly here (Seattle) claiming DTV is censoring what viewers are seeing. A total lie. Typical Fox Noise.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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Dish was going to do the same thing with CBS but apparently enough people pitched a bitch so they kept CBS. I smell an advertising campaign...
 
This happens all the time when negotiations are ongoing. CBS went through this with Comcast recently, as have others.

It's a tired tactic where the station just gets the provider lit up with phone calls to the point they can't conduct business.
 
Top Cat said:
This isn't censorship, it's negotiations. No more, no less.
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Whatever. Thankfully Dish network is losing subscribers by the tens of thousands.:lamo
 
ObamacareFail said:
Whatever. Thankfully Dish network is losing subscribers by the tens of thousands.:lamo
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All because they could not make a deal, this has nothing to do with censorship.
 
Hicup said:
How many times were you allowed to spew this nonsense without someone calling you out on it? Umm, prey tell what lie did they tell, can you provide a link? The add I saw said NOTHING about censoring FOX, NOTHING.


Tim-
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Ah I see, O'Reilly said DISH is censoring your news, NOT censoring FOX news, and he also provided context. Any normal thinking individual wouldn't construe what he said as a lie. You sound foolish for saying so..


Tim-
 
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