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Eric Holder, top U.S. officials no-shows at Paris unity rally

Hatuey said:
C'man, France specifically avoided the global war on terror back in the early 2000s. Remember when the 'Murica crowd was running through the streets calling them surrender monkeys? Hell, I bet I could find thousands of posts by right wingers calling them such. Now, it's different because Obama didn't show up. If he had shown up, they would have probably complained that he's stealing the show and not focusing on made up scandals like Benghazi and the IRS thing.
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Ah, jeez, no....


France had been IN the war on terror long before the US was even attacked. When you only listen to the idiots who actually VOTED in congress to re-name "French Fries" to "Freedom Fries" you end up spewing propagana. I would have demanded the Statute of Liberty back...what a ****ing insult, considering they were never "french" to begin with.

France, along with most of NATO chose not to get involved in another Vietnam and said so. They had their hands full in Libya and at home. They did NOTHING to America other than disagree with US foreign policy like Canada, and others. And like most of the rest of the world, they avoided that nightmare you created in Iraq.
 
PoS said:
If the US didnt invade Iraq there would be no ISIS so youre wrong.
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I am not wrong..I am far from wrong....again I suggest you learn about the Jihad..

Did France invade Iraq?

why wont the Muslims integrate into French society?..I know why.. do you?

I didnt know Egypt, Jordan, and Syria where in the US proper..


its really sad how so few really understand the Jihad... they think our lifetime means anything to the Jihad.. they dont care what we do..its about what their goal is..

but who cares its only a few tens of Millions of the Billions of Muslims.
 
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j-mac said:
List of leaders to attend rally....

Albania -- Prime Minister Edi Rama

Algeria -- Foreign Minister Ramtane Lamamra

Austria -- Foreign Minister Sebastian Kurz

Belgium -- Prime Minister Charles Michel

Benin -- President Thomas Boni Yayi

Britain -- Prime Minister David Cameron

Bulgaria -- Prime Minister Boyko Borisov

Canada -- Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney

Croatia -- Prime Minister Zoran Milanovic

Czech -- Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka

Denmark -- Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt

Gabon -- President Ali Bongo Ondimba

Georgia -- Prime Minister Irakli Garibashvili

Germany -- Chancellor Angela Merkel

Greece -- Prime Minister Antonis Samaras

Hungary -- Prime Minister Viktor Orban

Israel -- Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman

Italy -- Prime Minister Matteo Renzi

Jordan -- King Abdullah II and Queen Rania

Latvia -- Prime Minister Laimdota Straujuma

Mali -- President Ibrahim Boubacar Keita

Niger -- President Mahamadou Issoufou

Palestinian territories -- president Mahmud Abbas

Portugal -- Prime Minister Pedro Passos Coelho

Romania -- President Klaus Iohannis

Russia -- Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov

Spain -- Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy

Switzerland -- President Simonetta Sommaruga

The Netherlands -- Prime Minister Mark Rutte

Tunisia -- Prime Minister Mehdi Jomaa

Turkey -- Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu

United Arab Emirates -- Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahayan

Ukraine -- President Petro Poroshenko

United States -- Attorney General Eric Holder - **FAILED TO ATTEND**

European Commission -- President Jean-Claude Juncker

European Parliament -- President Martin Schulz

European Union -- President Donald Tusk

NATO -- Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg

You tell me....I see more than a few in there....
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And of course, let us not forget Dardania, whom was visited from the President Atifete Jahjaga.

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/french...osovos-president-atifete-photo-122415470.html
 
j-mac said:
Right wing nothing....Good grief....Do you know no boundaries in defending every stupid move this jack ass in office does?
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I'm not defending O; I'm simply re-iterating the silliness of complaining about someone's position on an issue based on whether he/she decided to go to some PR event :rolleyes:

And right wingers have a long-standing (but childish) tendency to judge politicians on how they present themselves as opposed to the actual details of the bills they write/sign off on or their sponsors sign off on.

Consequently, the same right wingers who think this refusal on O's part amounts to anything at all are likely the same silly morons who think that Darrell Issa is a great, honest man for grilling Holder on Operation FF.
 
j-mac said:
This can't be a serious question? You think what happened in France is no big deal?
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I think that it looks extremely egocentric the way the Europeans are acting after only a few victims. Had this been after Madrid or London okay. But with 2.000 down in Africa the same day? Nope it looks rather badly. As though they only cared about White Europeans.
 
Hatuey said:
Your feigned outrage at the thought of someone using the 'Murica crowd phrase is pretty telling of how little interest you have in debating the ridiculous arguments you've made. Listen up, j-mac, I won't state it again: France, isn't our best friend. The fact that they have been attacked is pretty bad. Nobody has questioned that. However, when you believe that America is "dishonoring" anything when we've been fighting the war on terror without France, for 14 years, you've pretty much exposed what your posts aren't about. This isn't some outrage that we didn't show up to a friend's funeral, this is outrage that Obama didn't show up. If he had shown up, you would have found another reason to complain. That's just how you work and this thread makes it clear. :shrug:
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Well, first off Hautey, "Feigned outrage" is YOUR description, and as usual it is quite dishonest...I have never said I was outraged about any of this, disappointing, embarrassed, sure....Outraged? Nah....I've come to expect this kind of dumb ass approach to the world from Obama, and progressives....So, you're wrong again, something else I expect from progressives like you...So, keep it coming Hautey, I am laughing at you.
 
j-mac said:
Well, first off Hautey, "Feigned outrage" is YOUR description,
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Lol, your understanding of what is said is shockingly accurate, yes j-mac it's feigned outrage and that's my description. The fact that you think we "dishonored" that "best friend" who didn't believe in the war on terror until they were attacked, is pretty telling. Tell us, do you believe 5,000 dead soldiers would agree that we have "dishonored" anyone by not showing up at their rhetoric laden rally and deciding instead to go at it mostly alone for 14 years? As I said, feigned outrage.
 
I thought the neocons hate France and Europe? Now their upset because they think we made a social faux pas?
 
joG said:
I think that it looks extremely egocentric the way the Europeans are acting after only a few victims. Had this been after Madrid or London okay. But with 2.000 down in Africa the same day? Nope it looks rather badly. As though they only cared about White Europeans.
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Ok, since this 2000 in Africa you say wasn't reported on should have been as, if not more important, please link us to something on this....
 
Hatuey said:
Lol, your understanding of what is said is shockingly accurate, yes j-mac it's feigned outrage and that's my description. The fact that you think we "dishonored" that "best friend" who didn't believe in the war on terror until they were attacked, is pretty telling. Tell us, do you believe 5,000 dead soldiers would agree that we have "dishonored" anyone by not showing up at their rhetoric laden rally and deciding instead to go at it mostly alone for 14 years? As I said, feigned outrage.
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The only feigned outrage here is yours...As if you cared one bit about those that died in either Iraq, or Afghanistan further than a political pawn to use in sites like this....
 
j-mac said:
The only feigned outrage here is yours...
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Do you know what that even means? Lol check your OP.

As if you cared one bit about those that died in either Iraq, or Afghanistan further than a political pawn to use in sites like this....
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Get serious, I've defended soldiers many times on this forum. Hell, I was just defending US soldiers against right wingers who would have wanted them to fight in countries that don't afford us extraterritoriality. You're way off the mark, and it's showing.
 
j-mac said:
Ok, since this 2000 in Africa you say wasn't reported on should have been as, if not more important, please link us to something on this....
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Awe come on. Didn't you see anything on it? I don't know your preferred news medium. Perhaps you could do a Google search like "2000 dead terrorist act" or so.
 
j-mac said:
The only feigned outrage here is yours...As if you cared one bit about those that died in either Iraq, or Afghanistan further than a political pawn to use in sites like this....
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Nope. Definitely you. You don't care one bit about the people who died in Paris.
 
j-mac said:
What a shameful display. And liberals wonder why rational opposition to Obama claim he is sympathetic to radical Islamists.
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The WH is now publicly regretting not sending a high ranking official.

White House: We should have sent higher official to Paris march

The White House said Monday that it should have sent a higher-profile official to a Paris rally where 1.5 million people marched in a show of unity against terrorism. The absence of President Obama and other top administration officials drew intense scrutiny on both sides of the Atlantic on Monday, with Republicans sharply criticizing the president at home and both domestic and foreign media raising questions about the dearth of U.S. presence at the event.

"I think it's fair to say that we should have sent someone with a higher profile" to the event, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said Monday. The U.S. Ambassador to France attended. Of the criticism, Earnest said, "We agree that we should have sent someone with a higher profile in addition to the ambassador to France."


more here:

White House: We should have sent higher official to Paris march
 
joG said:
Awe come on. Didn't you see anything on it? I don't know your preferred news medium. Perhaps you could do a Google search like "2000 dead terrorist act" or so.
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Wow, that's horrible....So, are you saying that not focusing on Boko, is racist? They are all Islamist radicals no?
 
tres borrachos said:
The WH is now publicly regretting not sending a high ranking official.

White House: We should have sent higher official to Paris march

The White House said Monday that it should have sent a higher-profile official to a Paris rally where 1.5 million people marched in a show of unity against terrorism. The absence of President Obama and other top administration officials drew intense scrutiny on both sides of the Atlantic on Monday, with Republicans sharply criticizing the president at home and both domestic and foreign media raising questions about the dearth of U.S. presence at the event.

"I think it's fair to say that we should have sent someone with a higher profile" to the event, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said Monday. The U.S. Ambassador to France attended. Of the criticism, Earnest said, "We agree that we should have sent someone with a higher profile in addition to the ambassador to France."


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White House: We should have sent higher official to Paris march
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Thanks for that Tres....Although, the sign that I am taking so much flack from the usual suspects tells me I am right on the mark, and now not even this admission by the WH that they should have sent someone, will quell their middle school antics.
 
I think this reinforces D'souza's assessment of Obama's view of Europe.
 
humbolt said:
I think this reinforces D'souza's assessment of Obama's view of Europe.
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Greetings, humbolt. :2wave:

Yes, it does, and that's sad. Lots of us do not share this administration's thinking, though, and I'm certain our allies understand that all of us are against terrorism, with all it's disgusting displays of killing innocent people who are just trying to live their lives. They are barbarians - we are not!
 
polgara said:
Greetings, humbolt. :2wave:

Yes, it does, and that's sad. Lots of us do not share this administration's thinking, though, and I'm certain our allies understand that all of us are against terrorism, with all it's disgusting displays of killing innocent people who are just trying to live their lives. They are barbarians - we are not!
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Morning, Pol. I don't think that Obama's absence is a huge deal. It's simply reflective of his views and priorities regarding Europe, which is too bad. They are allies, whether you happen to like the history or not. I think Obama holds an extremely cynical view of that history. OTOH, leaders in Europe should finally recognize that they have a stake in fighting radical Islam that goes beyond simple demonstrations. More is required, and we can't do that for them. So in this case, they're going to have to show me it's more than words and feel good demonstrations. These attacks have taken on a global nature, and a global response will be required at some point. No area has been left free from the barbarism.
 
Anthony60 said:
Besides just being a completely unqualified novice in office, he is also an A1 screw up. Although it is possible he was afraid of offending the islamo-nazis that would kill him in a second.
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No, His own wouldn't kill him, just flog him, but since he is their leader not even that would happen!
 
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