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Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

Start em off in an inner city, with a uneducated single parent and ****ty schools and see how they fare. And they might not stay poor, but they'd also probably never be rich again.

Everyone is given challenges in life, some more than others.

"with an uneducated single parent", what, your supporting my idea to take the kids away from these idiots and placing them in a home or group home which gives them discipline and nurturing?

****ty schools are the result of the attitudes of the residents, parents and the students. Try acting like civilized people instead of liberals and maybe they could get decent teachers and their facilities wouldn't look like run down gang graffiti walls.
 
What's so important about being so rich? It's just a power trip with too much emphasis on money making. T me it seems there are many vocations in society, artisans, mechanics, welders, hvac technicians, sports players, but for some reason people think that those who merely know how to make money are so great, when in fact they are merely opportunists who know how to buy cheap and sell expensive. Only a few nations Can even afford to have a real capitalist lifestyle. Places like USA and Europe are dependent on exploitative labor practices in other lands that are illegal in the USA and Europe. The world can only afford to have a few successful capitalist nations. The rest literally have to be in poverty to support the few.
 
Geeezz.. more of this nonsense

Us vs them, rich vs poor, 1 percent vs the 99 percent.

Its all bull ****.

Purposely divisive leftist perpetuatjions to push an agenda built on envy, and the false narrative of " disparity ".

All because they have absolutely nothing substantial to run on. Their policies can't stand on their own merits so they invent these class struggles.

Trying to rope in the useful idiots who actually think Government should be the final arbiter of whats " fair " and " equitable ".
They are trying to create election issues here, dividing one group of Americans against another. It will probably work.
 
What's so important about being so rich? It's just a power trip with too much emphasis on money making. T me it seems there are many vocations in society, artisans, mechanics, welders, hvac technicians, sports players, but for some reason people think that those who merely know how to make money are so great, when in fact they are merely opportunists who know how to buy cheap and sell expensive. Only a few nations Can even afford to have a real capitalist lifestyle. Places like USA and Europe are dependent on exploitative labor practices in other lands that are illegal in the USA and Europe. The world can only afford to have a few successful capitalist nations. The rest literally have to be in poverty to support the few.

Didn't you notice that this is not poor people saying rich people think they have it easy, it is other people saying that in place of the poor people.
 
Hmmm, what's the percentage? 53?

That would leave 47%,


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/14/b...wer-wage-earners-harder-study-finds.html?_r=0
When it comes to the taxes closest to home, the less you earn, the harder you’re hit.

That is the conclusion of an analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy that evaluates the local tax burden in every state, from Washington, labeled the most regressive, to Delaware, ranked as the fairest of them all.

According to the study, in 2015 the poorest fifth of Americans will pay on average 10.9 percent of their income in state and local taxes, the middle fifth will pay 9.4 percent and the top 1 percent will average 5.4 percent.

“Virtually every state’s tax system is fundamentally unfair,” the report concludes. “Unfair tax systems not only exacerbate widening income inequality in the short term, but they also will leave states struggling to raise enough revenue to meet their basic needs in the long term.”

The trend is growing worse, said Meg Wiehe, state policy director at the institute, a nonpartisan research organization based in the nation’s capital. Several states have adopted or are considering policy changes that further lighten the tax load on their wealthiest residents, she said.
 
If you don't have a lot of cash you don't have to worry about someone taking that cash, eh?

Correct- your worries are feeding, housing, and trying to provide for them.
The other worries are gangs, drugs and crime as many live in poor areas.
 
Americans are smrt. We realized that by giving people freedom we took away their personal power. THat by saying they could have guns, it was like we were giving them guns. If I want a gun or to smoke pot or whatever, I would just do it. I don't need any libertarians or constitution to tell me what I can or can't do, especially when it's with strings attached, like we give you freedom as long as you become our goon and let us accumulate money dangerously without any regulation.
 
So what?

Most poor probably think the rich should be taxed at 90% of their income.

Both thoughts are silly.


No one poor wants to be poor. And taxing the rich 90% is asinine...just jealousy/sour grapes.

Even for those poor that sit on their asses collecting government assistance, I guarantee you it taxes them emotionally.
No one sane wants poverty even if they don't have to do anything to exist.
 
payday loan places

and car title loan places

it would almost be better to go see Mac the loanshark than deal with these type of companies

and too many get in, and then have trouble exiting

they are big money makers if you can stand looking at your reflection in the mirror at night

me...i couldnt do it......
I wish someone would address this unneeded problem.

Oh wait, they have.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...terest-rates-on-payday-loans-and-improve-dis/

"victims"?

When I was growing up, I never thought of myself as a victim. My point stands. a rational person making 10k a year wouldn't give a dime to charity.

and the amount $500 is offset by entitlments should they so choose to take.

I don't know why you're bragging about:

1) not realizing you're a victim

2) hating on those who try and improve the world through whatever small piece they can.
I always love these threads, though the rich give BILLIONS of dollars to charity, it's not enough for the collectivists, it's never enough and never will be.
The poor give until it hurts -- and they hurt to begin with; let me know of the rich meeting that level of dedication to their fellow citizen.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/14/b...wer-wage-earners-harder-study-finds.html?_r=0
When it comes to the taxes closest to home, the less you earn, the harder you’re hit.

That is the conclusion of an analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy that evaluates the local tax burden in every state, from Washington, labeled the most regressive, to Delaware, ranked as the fairest of them all.

According to the study, in 2015 the poorest fifth of Americans will pay on average 10.9 percent of their income in state and local taxes, the middle fifth will pay 9.4 percent and the top 1 percent will average 5.4 percent.

“Virtually every state’s tax system is fundamentally unfair,” the report concludes. “Unfair tax systems not only exacerbate widening income inequality in the short term, but they also will leave states struggling to raise enough revenue to meet their basic needs in the long term.”

The trend is growing worse, said Meg Wiehe, state policy director at the institute, a nonpartisan research organization based in the nation’s capital. Several states have adopted or are considering policy changes that further lighten the tax load on their wealthiest residents, she said.

I tapped into a website yesterday and found the reason why Romoney said what he did, he might have been correct about his 47% comment, but he never expounded as to why it was that way, which is income disparity, people are working lower paying jobs, which are not full time jobs, and even if the jobs were full time, the money earned still wouldn't be enough to require them to pay taxes.

The tax code provides EIC's for those that have children, the elderly and other requirements, plus you need to make a certain dollar amount to be taxed at all. If a person earns only a small amount, say $14,000 a year, there is no tax income tax levied on that, but what Mittens failed at was noting that the 47% does pay some taxes, on goods, licensing fees for vehicles, everyday items people use, fuel taxes, foods, and a host of other items that are taxed. So he was factually incorrect.

But being that he was talking to a group of would be donors, I can see why he would be less than honest about his comments, he just wanted their campaign contributions.
 
How many of you give to charity, and how many just bitch about the poor for political reasons?
 
Just about everyone downplays their own circumstances and ignores key aspects of others'.

That being said: The bottom 10% of income earners in the U.S. live better lives than the bottom 10% in all but three nation, and better lives than the TOP 10% of all but eleven.

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I wish someone would address this unneeded problem.

Oh wait, they have.

The Obameter: Cap interest rates on payday loans and improve disclosure | PolitiFact



I don't know why you're bragging about:

1) not realizing you're a victim

2) hating on those who try and improve the world through whatever small piece they can.

The poor give until it hurts -- and they hurt to begin with; let me know of the rich meeting that level of dedication to their fellow citizen.



I would wager that I Give more than you, in time and money, including percentage. That's me "hating on" mirite? /facepalm
 
I would wager that I Give more than you, in time and money, including percentage. That's me "hating on" mirite? /facepalm
If you're contributing, good for you. If you can contribute more, please do.

Everyone (including me) can do more to improve our world. Some do more than they should, most far less.
 
If you're contributing, good for you. If you can contribute more, please do.

Everyone (including me) can do more to improve our world. Some do more than they should, most far less.



You made an asinine statement that infered something of me. That's what I replied to.


And I agree, many who complain about others do far less than they should.
 
If you're contributing, good for you. If you can contribute more, please do.

Everyone (including me) can do more to improve our world. Some do more than they should, most far less.
Are you arguing for more charity or for more government distribution of other people's money?
 
I tapped into a website yesterday and found the reason why Romoney said what he did, he might have been correct about his 47% comment, but he never expounded as to why it was that way, which is income disparity, people are working lower paying jobs, which are not full time jobs, and even if the jobs were full time, the money earned still wouldn't be enough to require them to pay taxes.

The tax code provides EIC's for those that have children, the elderly and other requirements, plus you need to make a certain dollar amount to be taxed at all. If a person earns only a small amount, say $14,000 a year, there is no tax income tax levied on that, but what Mittens failed at was noting that the 47% does pay some taxes, on goods, licensing fees for vehicles, everyday items people use, fuel taxes, foods, and a host of other items that are taxed. So he was factually incorrect.

But being that he was talking to a group of would be donors, I can see why he would be less than honest about his comments, he just wanted their campaign contributions.
What you miss here is that everyone pays these use taxes, and sales taxes. It is disingenuous to imply that because people pay that taxation but at the end of the year wind up not only getting their original payroll taxes paid (if any) back, but get another $3K refund in EIC payment that they pay any damned thing.
 
What you miss here is that everyone pays these use taxes, and sales taxes. It is disingenuous to imply that because people pay that taxation but at the end of the year wind up not only getting their original payroll taxes paid (if any) back, but get another $3K refund in EIC payment that they pay any damned thing.

And what you miss is that this is the tax code, and corporations use the tax code to their advantage too. You hardly ever hear a corporate exec whining about losses they suffered in a fiscal year, because most losses are deductible, write-offs. Once in awhile we do hear corporations whining their taxes are too high, but for people like mittens, who can shuffle investments overseas and not have to pay taxes, it's no problemo for people like him.

Working poor usually use that money from EIC's and put it back into the economy by purchasing things, which is another thing you and mittens alike fail to understand.
 
And what you miss is that this is the tax code, and corporations use the tax code to their advantage too. You hardly ever hear a corporate exec whining about losses they suffered in a fiscal year, because most losses are deductible, write-offs. Once in awhile we do hear corporations whining their taxes are too high, but for people like mittens, who can shuffle investments overseas and not have to pay taxes, it's no problemo for people like him.

Working poor usually use that money from EIC's and put it back into the economy by purchasing things, which is another thing you and mittens alike fail to understand.

And you think corporate profits evaporate into thin air? Frankly your half-true posts are disingenuous at best. Maybe because your concept of the business picture only shows the part that serves your politics. Corporations actually take materials and add value to them in the form of products and so they profit by doing so by keep some of the revenue. This also gets fed back into the economy. Lots of times they expand their production or product line.................which means more employment.
 
And what you miss is that this is the tax code, and corporations use the tax code to their advantage too. You hardly ever hear a corporate exec whining about losses they suffered in a fiscal year, because most losses are deductible, write-offs. Once in awhile we do hear corporations whining their taxes are too high, but for people like mittens, who can shuffle investments overseas and not have to pay taxes, it's no problemo for people like him.

Working poor usually use that money from EIC's and put it back into the economy by purchasing things, which is another thing you and mittens alike fail to understand.
When you use adolescent terms like 'Mittens' it's easy to see why you may not be doing so well in this world. Use adult terms, speak like an adult, and perhaps you'll be taken more seriously.
 
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