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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sorry, I got it wrong...The number I was looking at was the youth UE rate, which in France is around 24%, while overall UE is around 10.4%....But even with that, it isn't good...Even the clip you provided to me, says as much.
    Sure-- it's not "good" but the point was not all countries with (whatever buzzword) "errrmuuugod socialism {sic}" are in some unemployment hellhole. it was cherry picked data set (ignoring those countries with great employment levels) and had an incorrect data point to boot! LOL

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Sure-- it's not "good" but the point was not all countries with (whatever buzzword) "errrmuuugod socialism {sic}" are in some unemployment hellhole. it was cherry picked data set (ignoring those countries with great employment levels) and had an incorrect data point to boot! LOL
    So, it's the same argument...."It's not that Socialism ultimately fails, it's just that they either didn't do it right, or weren't allowed to do enough of it" amirite? At some point we have to understand that aspects of both Capitalism, and Socialism have to be there together in a fragile coexistence in order to work, and be compassionate. Either one on its own fails.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, it's the same argument...."It's not that Socialism ultimately fails, it's just that they either didn't do it right, or weren't allowed to do enough of it" amirite? At some point we have to understand that aspects of both Capitalism, and Socialism have to be there together in a fragile coexistence in order to work, and be compassionate. Either one on its own fails.
    assuming by "Socialism" you mean social safety/insurance programs and progressive taxes, then I'd agree. I hate how the word has been co-opted, but it is what it is....

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    assuming by "Socialism" you mean social safety/insurance programs and progressive taxes, then I'd agree. I hate how the word has been co-opted, but it is what it is....
    Well, absolutely that is what I am talking about....I am quite certain that most are not in favor of the overreaching government control that comes with truly Socialist countries.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I see a few Northern, and north eastern states in the same boat as "the South".... California, and Texas lead....

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    that's not by percentage, that's total number of children in poverty.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    that's not by percentage, that's total number of children in poverty.
    Aren't statistics wonderful?
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I'm sorry the 1% do a very poor job of being sympathetic.
    actually the top one percent give billions to charity. of course to people who are envious of the rich or blame the rich for their own failures, nothing is going to convince them otherwise



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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

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    Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy - The Washington Post
    Most of America's richest think poor people have it easy in this country, according to a new report released by the Pew Research Center. The center surveyed a nationally representative group of people this past fall, and found that the majority of the country's most financially secure citizens (54 percent at the very top, and 57 percent just below) believe the "poor have it easy because they can get government benefits without doing anything in return." America's least financially secure, meanwhile, vehemently disagree — nearly 70 percent say the poor have hard lives because the benefits "don't go far enough." Nationally, the population is almost evenly split.

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    The Politics of Financial Insecurity | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, the difference is Keynesian economic policies that have bloated our money supply, artificially propped up the stock market, and prolonged the recovery.
    Basically hit bottom fast and harder with a quicker recovery? Is that correct?
    QE has not worked. From what i understand a shortage of-highly skilled / highly educated candidates for a variety of jobs exists in many areas of the US.
    In past recessions, gong by memory on what I read, certain areas of the US fared better than others, people moved to where there was work???
    Companies do not see growth and are sitting on their money as they are not confident of a recovery so do not expand.
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