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Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

I'm sorry the 1% do a very poor job of being sympathetic.

actually the top one percent give billions to charity. of course to people who are envious of the rich or blame the rich for their own failures, nothing is going to convince them otherwise
 
Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy - The Washington Post
Most of America's richest think poor people have it easy in this country, according to a new report released by the Pew Research Center. The center surveyed a nationally representative group of people this past fall, and found that the majority of the country's most financially secure citizens (54 percent at the very top, and 57 percent just below) believe the "poor have it easy because they can get government benefits without doing anything in return." America's least financially secure, meanwhile, vehemently disagree — nearly 70 percent say the poor have hard lives because the benefits "don't go far enough." Nationally, the population is almost evenly split.

Link to the report.
The Politics of Financial Insecurity | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

If they have it so easy, why ain't more rich people trying to become poor?
 
No, the difference is Keynesian economic policies that have bloated our money supply, artificially propped up the stock market, and prolonged the recovery.
Basically hit bottom fast and harder with a quicker recovery? Is that correct?
QE has not worked. From what i understand a shortage of-highly skilled / highly educated candidates for a variety of jobs exists in many areas of the US.
In past recessions, gong by memory on what I read, certain areas of the US fared better than others, people moved to where there was work???
Companies do not see growth and are sitting on their money as they are not confident of a recovery so do not expand.
 
I suggested inspecting the system in which these poverty levels arise.

Inspecting the system is not a cause. Try a again. Does the word "Coward" mean anything to you.
 
My apologies- From what I have read many temps are on a flex schedule which changes quickly. From day to day these can change. Then notified they are on call, and not called in. A number of people with PT employment have more that 1 PT job.
I believe Congress is in the process of changing full time as defined by hr to 30. From what i recall it is around 40 now.
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OK, but like I said every country has the same problem.
 
Basically hit bottom fast and harder with a quicker recovery? Is that correct?
QE has not worked. From what i understand a shortage of-highly skilled / highly educated candidates for a variety of jobs exists in many areas of the US.
In past recessions, gong by memory on what I read, certain areas of the US fared better than others, people moved to where there was work???
Companies do not see growth and are sitting on their money as they are not confident of a recovery so do not expand.

So I've heard.
 
actually the top one percent give billions to charity. of course to people who are envious of the rich or blame the rich for their own failures, nothing is going to convince them otherwise

charity.jpg
 
When are the people of this country going to realize they're being played like a banjo by liberalism.

It's big business and big politics to do whatever it takes to divide us in every way possible. Black/white, rich/poor, old/young, male/female, gay/straight, city/country, northern/southern, religious/non........puke.

I'd bet people have pretty much the same experience I do every day. I see people from all walks, and we get along just dandy. Yet liberals claim I'm having secret meetings in my basement with others like me to rid the world of everybody that doesn't meet every category I fall under.

Wake up. They're not for you. They're using you.
 

that really doesn't tell the whole story

if you give a million and you make 100 million you still give more than a guy who makes 20K an gives 1000 even thug he gives five percent and you give one percent

your graph in no way disputes what I said. and it doesn't delineate the top one percent but rather than each quintile
 
Does not every country have that same problem, yet as you say we have 1 in 3 children living in poverty.

The problem with that statistic is the definition of poverty.
 
Americans are predators. Like a rattlesnake, it's not worthwhile to complain about the snakes's poison. You merely avoid stepping on it. It's an unreasonable animal. You are right that liberals who complain about the rich are like someone complaining about a poisonous snake and letting it bite them rather than just accepting that its a wild animal and jumping out of the way. Americans follow rules of predation and cannot be bothered to change themselves anymore than a pack of wolves. I think of libertarians as a pack of wolves in fact. Poor people in other lands who have been abused by American foreign policy understand this best, the USA is the USA, it's not something to argue with.
 
my experience is anecdotal...i understand that

i have worked for six self made millionaires in my career

started with little or nothing....and built sizable businesses

some have been more charitable than others, but all have had their "pet projects"

and all have setup programs for giving a hand up to those that have less....

but back to the OP.....

my two cents.....is that most of those rich have been around the world

and when you compare our "poor" to other places in the world, it is not a stretch to say those that live here have it much better and easier than those in other parts of the world

that statement in it itself is a no brainer......

my boss just got back from the middle east in November.....so the rich may see things from a slightly different perspective than most of us do
 
Since we are into an election year, or leading up to it, I bet we see many more threads like this.
 
Another point is that if we raise the arbitrary poverty line to $100,000 per year, there will be many more children living below it.
 
Americans are predators. Like a rattlesnake, it's not worthwhile to complain about the snakes's poison. You merely avoid stepping on it. It's an unreasonable animal. You are right that liberals who complain about the rich are like someone complaining about a poisonous snake and letting it bite them rather than just accepting that its a wild animal and jumping out of the way. Americans follow rules of predation and cannot be bothered to change themselves anymore than a pack of wolves. I think of libertarians as a pack of wolves in fact. Poor people in other lands who have been abused by American foreign policy understand this best, the USA is the USA, it's not something to argue with.




Buahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
 
My general impression after being a social worker for the better part of a decade was that many poor didn't believe they were living the dream, but their perception of how things work and how you become successful was profoundly broken. In the end, they saw "success" and "food" exactly the same way, and had grown to depend on the Government for both in the same way. The problem was that "success" was not obtainable through the government (even though so many on the left liked to say it was), so they sat waiting for the government to deliver success to them the same way they got their welfare checks. They weren't happy about this, indeed most were profoundly depressed and disappointed that the government hadn't handed them gainful employment yet, which only fed their desperation.

Those who saw government help as temporary and regrettable were the same ones who dropped off the roles fairly quickly.

You learned quick in that job who was going to use welfare as a safety net and those who used it as a hammock.
 
that really doesn't tell the whole story

if you give a million and you make 100 million you still give more than a guy who makes 20K an gives 1000 even thug he gives five percent and you give one percent

your graph in no way disputes what I said. and it doesn't delineate the top one percent but rather than each quintile
I found your statement was one sided and didn't acknowledge that the rich give less as a percentage of their income than the other income levels.
Is that your goal for the rich to say to the poor "poor baby"?
My goal is for everyone to appreciate the benefits of a system that offers greater opportunity.
4.3% of $10,531 is $452.83
2.1% of $158,888 is $3336.65


Jus sayin.....
Which of those households is more greatly impacted by that charitable giving? The one that lives below the poverty level or the one that's comfortably middle class?
 
I found your statement was one sided and didn't acknowledge that the rich give less as a percentage of their income than the other income levels.

My goal is for everyone to appreciate the benefits of a system that offers greater opportunity.

Which of those households is more greatly impacted by that charitable giving? The one that lives below the poverty level or the one that's comfortably middle class?



Kinda explains why one guy is rich, and the other guy is poor. People don't get rich by being foolish with thier money. If I was only making 10k, I'd probably not be giving any of it away, especially because I'm probably taking handouts.
 
Kinda explains why one guy is rich, and the other guy is poor. People don't get rich by being foolish with thier money. If I was only making 10k, I'd probably not be giving any of it away, especially because I'm probably taking handouts.
Or because the poor live close enough to poverty to actually recognize how difficult it can be to overcome rather than simply blaming the victims.
 
Kinda explains why one guy is rich, and the other guy is poor. People don't get rich by being foolish with thier money. If I was only making 10k, I'd probably not be giving any of it away, especially because I'm probably taking handouts.

when i was an E3 with 3 kids, my wife would berate me for walking by a panhandler and not giving them anything

we would argue about this endlessly....one of many that eventually led to a divorce

my argument was always that charity starts at home.....

we just couldnt afford to be generous at that point in our lives

last year, my charitable contributions will total over 40k

a lot has changed in 35 years.......

someone earning little enough to receive any type of assistance whether through food stamps, rent control, etc has no business giving to any charity

volunteer, do errands, assist in other ways.....but monetarily.....NFW
 
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