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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Then please explain where I'm wrong. You present something that basically glorifies cheap labor.
    You should be familiar with the subject and the history, both in Britain and the US, before you begin debate. I'm not here to school you.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You should be familiar with the subject and the history, both in Britain and the US, before you begin debate. I'm not here to school you.
    What? I'm not asking you to school me. I'm asking you where you disagree with my points.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    What? I'm not asking you to school me. I'm asking you where you disagree with my points.
    You claimed I was 'glorifying cheap labor'. How stupid is that? Again, learn something about the subject and then contribute. See you in a week or so.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You claimed I was 'glorifying cheap labor'. How stupid is that? Again, learn something about the subject and then contribute. See you in a week or so.
    I didn't say 'you'. I was talking about the people over at the Hoover Institute. The mindset that cheap labor made us strong.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Those aren't itemized by your use of them, or your indirect use of them.
    Oh, but there is where you're dead wrong. As a citizen I pay taxes for roads, schools, and infrastructure. As a trucker I pay through the nose for roads, and infrastructure. Tell me I don't and I'll send the bills to you and you can pay them.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, but there is where you're dead wrong. As a citizen I pay taxes for roads, schools, and infrastructure. As a trucker I pay through the nose for roads, and infrastructure. Tell me I don't and I'll send the bills to you and you can pay them.
    We both pay taxes. We both are allowed to use public goods and services regardless of what we've paid. You can drive on any street in any town in any state without being denied for the amount of taxes you've paid. You'll never be stopped at an intersection and told "you've driven as far as your $63,000 taxable income permits."
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    If you borrow money and refuse to pay it back, you are a thief. Period.
    Well, you can't get blood out of a turnip, can you?
    What if a poor working stiff borrows money with every intention of paying it back?
    Then, his job is eliminated, off-shored, down-sized out of existence.....he can't repay his debt.
    Is he still a thief?
    What if a hypothetical wealthy guy---call him Donald Chump---files multiple bankruptcies, stiffing his vendors?
    Chump still manages to lead the life of an alleged billionaire, after screwing the people he dealt with.
    Is Chump a thief?
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Some poor people are slouchy, but not most. Because if it is, the rich people will starve.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Well, you can't get blood out of a turnip, can you?
    What if a poor working stiff borrows money with every intention of paying it back?
    Then, his job is eliminated, off-shored, down-sized out of existence.....he can't repay his debt.
    Is he still a thief?
    What if a hypothetical wealthy guy---call him Donald Chump---files multiple bankruptcies, stiffing his vendors?
    Chump still manages to lead the life of an alleged billionaire, after screwing the people he dealt with.
    Is Chump a thief?
    Who the hell ever said you can get blood out of a turnip? I just said AND I REPEAT that if you borrow money and REFUSE to pay it back, you're a thief. The only people I can think of that would get all indignant over that are people that wouldn't think anything of borrowing money and ducking out of their debts.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Who the hell ever said you can get blood out of a turnip? I just said AND I REPEAT that if you borrow money and REFUSE to pay it back, you're a thief. The only people I can think of that would get all indignant over that are people that wouldn't think anything of borrowing money and ducking out of their debts.
    There is a difference between 'refusing' and just simply cannot.

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