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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There is a vast disparity in the effort, and risk as well.
    I take offense to that honestly because i am certainly not the 1% and I work my a** off. And to say I don't take risks, I invest modest amounts of my income and live on nothing as a result and have seen nothing come to fruition as a result. I work 2 jobs and am picking up a 3rd yet I live off of McDonald's and don't turn my heat on in the winter or AC in the summer. I went to college. I don't see how much more effort you want. I again want to emphasize that I don't think the governments role is to make policy to change where myself and others in my position stand, but it is hard to acknowledge a lack of a huge gap there.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    First, corporations pay little, or no real tax when in the bottom line they pass along those rates to the consumer through higher retail pricing. So when you 'anti Corp' people start bleeting about soaking these corporations I have to shake my head and realize that you know very little of how bisiness works.

    As for saying that the EIC recipient puts that money into the economy, you're right, bit don't represent that these people pay taxes when they don't and I showed you how that was true.
    Oh no, you don't want to go there.

    Does anyone using this forum know where the EITC came from? anyone?

    So, is it the R party or the libertarian party that want's to keep up with discouraging and disparaging low wage earners dig?

    I mean, if these working poor were suddenly given pay increases, they'd probably be paying income taxes, right? But no, we can't have that, we need poor to keep your wheels greased while you complain about the working poor not paying their fair share. You corporate people want the cake, and you want to eat it too.

    If the corporate gooks want working poor to pay income taxes, they have two choices, one pay better wages, or two get the tax code changed.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    I grew up in poverty and am now in what would be the upper middle class income demographic. I can honestly say from my own life experience that being poor is a hard life.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    I take offense to that honestly because i am certainly not the 1% and I work my a** off. And to say I don't take risks, I invest modest amounts of my income and live on nothing as a result and have seen nothing come to fruition as a result. I work 2 jobs and am picking up a 3rd yet I live off of McDonald's and don't turn my heat on in the winter or AC in the summer. I went to college. I don't see how much more effort you want. I again want to emphasize that I don't think the governments role is to make policy to change where myself and others in my position stand, but it is hard to acknowledge a lack of a huge gap there.
    You're likely to do very well over the long term. Except for the McDonald's part.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I grew up in poverty and am now in what would be the upper middle class income demographic. I can honestly say from my own life experience that being poor is a hard life.
    Yep! But you had the opportunity to improve your life and did so. In many places in the world that opportunity is just not there.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why is this important? There are social programs for everyone and many opportunities to make more money through education and hard work. What more do you want?
    As I said to j-mac, please do not stereotype people. I work two jobs, and beginning a 3rd soon. I have a degree, I invest in many different stocks and sectors, I don't spend my money on things except the essentials, yet I live off of McDonalds. I don't turn my heat on in the winter or AC in the summer. I have never taken government assistance, yet I work hard. I don't think any 1%er that gets up at 5 am to get to their first job, then drives back across town to be at job number two at 9am, then back to the first job at 5 pm when they get off until 10pm when they finally get to go home. My third job is going to be online when I get home from my other two.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You're likely to do very well over the long term. Except for the McDonald's part.
    Very true on that haha. Gonna need a bypass by 35.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    I take offense to that honestly because i am certainly not the 1% and I work my a** off. And to say I don't take risks, I invest modest amounts of my income and live on nothing as a result and have seen nothing come to fruition as a result. I work 2 jobs and am picking up a 3rd yet I live off of McDonald's and don't turn my heat on in the winter or AC in the summer. I went to college. I don't see how much more effort you want. I again want to emphasize that I don't think the governments role is to make policy to change where myself and others in my position stand, but it is hard to acknowledge a lack of a huge gap there.
    Ok, I'm a working stiff as well. You outlined the effort, and just like me you work hard...now, what's your risk?
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, I'm a working stiff as well. You outlined the effort, and just like me you work hard...now, what's your risk?
    I'm investing modest amounts of my income in the stock market. I've actually lost money on my investments in a good market, which is simply deflating.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yep! But you had the opportunity to improve your life and did so. In many places in the world that opportunity is just not there.
    Well its also contingent on having the personal talents and abilities to improve your life. I think for some people who are rich poverty is an abstract concept for them. They simply have no concept at all for what it is like to be poor. Its like asking a typical westerner what it would be like to live in sub-Saharan Africa on a dollar a day. We know people live like that there, but we really don't know what it would actually be like and thus its easy for us to pass judgement on those that live in that kind of abject poverty. The same is true for many rich people when they consider the working poor. They know such people exist, but have no concept at all what its like to have to live paycheck to paycheck.
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