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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I wish someone would address this unneeded problem.

    Oh wait, they have.

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    I don't know why you're bragging about:

    1) not realizing you're a victim

    2) hating on those who try and improve the world through whatever small piece they can.

    The poor give until it hurts -- and they hurt to begin with; let me know of the rich meeting that level of dedication to their fellow citizen.


    I would wager that I Give more than you, in time and money, including percentage. That's me "hating on" mirite? /facepalm
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I would wager that I Give more than you, in time and money, including percentage. That's me "hating on" mirite? /facepalm
    If you're contributing, good for you. If you can contribute more, please do.

    Everyone (including me) can do more to improve our world. Some do more than they should, most far less.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    If you're contributing, good for you. If you can contribute more, please do.

    Everyone (including me) can do more to improve our world. Some do more than they should, most far less.


    You made an asinine statement that infered something of me. That's what I replied to.


    And I agree, many who complain about others do far less than they should.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    If you're contributing, good for you. If you can contribute more, please do.

    Everyone (including me) can do more to improve our world. Some do more than they should, most far less.
    Are you arguing for more charity or for more government distribution of other people's money?

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I tapped into a website yesterday and found the reason why Romoney said what he did, he might have been correct about his 47% comment, but he never expounded as to why it was that way, which is income disparity, people are working lower paying jobs, which are not full time jobs, and even if the jobs were full time, the money earned still wouldn't be enough to require them to pay taxes.

    The tax code provides EIC's for those that have children, the elderly and other requirements, plus you need to make a certain dollar amount to be taxed at all. If a person earns only a small amount, say $14,000 a year, there is no tax income tax levied on that, but what Mittens failed at was noting that the 47% does pay some taxes, on goods, licensing fees for vehicles, everyday items people use, fuel taxes, foods, and a host of other items that are taxed. So he was factually incorrect.

    But being that he was talking to a group of would be donors, I can see why he would be less than honest about his comments, he just wanted their campaign contributions.
    What you miss here is that everyone pays these use taxes, and sales taxes. It is disingenuous to imply that because people pay that taxation but at the end of the year wind up not only getting their original payroll taxes paid (if any) back, but get another $3K refund in EIC payment that they pay any damned thing.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What you miss here is that everyone pays these use taxes, and sales taxes. It is disingenuous to imply that because people pay that taxation but at the end of the year wind up not only getting their original payroll taxes paid (if any) back, but get another $3K refund in EIC payment that they pay any damned thing.
    And what you miss is that this is the tax code, and corporations use the tax code to their advantage too. You hardly ever hear a corporate exec whining about losses they suffered in a fiscal year, because most losses are deductible, write-offs. Once in awhile we do hear corporations whining their taxes are too high, but for people like mittens, who can shuffle investments overseas and not have to pay taxes, it's no problemo for people like him.

    Working poor usually use that money from EIC's and put it back into the economy by purchasing things, which is another thing you and mittens alike fail to understand.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Just about everyone downplays their own circumstances and ignores key aspects of others'.

    That being said: The bottom 10% of income earners in the U.S. live better lives than the bottom 10% in all but three nation, and better lives than the TOP 10% of all but eleven.

    What a greedy and selfish country was are.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    And what you miss is that this is the tax code, and corporations use the tax code to their advantage too. You hardly ever hear a corporate exec whining about losses they suffered in a fiscal year, because most losses are deductible, write-offs. Once in awhile we do hear corporations whining their taxes are too high, but for people like mittens, who can shuffle investments overseas and not have to pay taxes, it's no problemo for people like him.

    Working poor usually use that money from EIC's and put it back into the economy by purchasing things, which is another thing you and mittens alike fail to understand.
    And you think corporate profits evaporate into thin air? Frankly your half-true posts are disingenuous at best. Maybe because your concept of the business picture only shows the part that serves your politics. Corporations actually take materials and add value to them in the form of products and so they profit by doing so by keep some of the revenue. This also gets fed back into the economy. Lots of times they expand their production or product line.................which means more employment.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Another thing they tell each other is that the poor have 'an inability to defer gratification'.
    You're familiar with the study on this phenomenon then?

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    And what you miss is that this is the tax code, and corporations use the tax code to their advantage too. You hardly ever hear a corporate exec whining about losses they suffered in a fiscal year, because most losses are deductible, write-offs. Once in awhile we do hear corporations whining their taxes are too high, but for people like mittens, who can shuffle investments overseas and not have to pay taxes, it's no problemo for people like him.

    Working poor usually use that money from EIC's and put it back into the economy by purchasing things, which is another thing you and mittens alike fail to understand.
    When you use adolescent terms like 'Mittens' it's easy to see why you may not be doing so well in this world. Use adult terms, speak like an adult, and perhaps you'll be taken more seriously.

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