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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Hmmm, what's the percentage? 53?

    That would leave 47%,

    Romney nailed the truth. What's the matter with that?

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Hmmm, what's the percentage? 53?

    That would leave 47%,

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/14/bu...inds.html?_r=0
    When it comes to the taxes closest to home, the less you earn, the harder you’re hit.

    That is the conclusion of an analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy that evaluates the local tax burden in every state, from Washington, labeled the most regressive, to Delaware, ranked as the fairest of them all.

    According to the study, in 2015 the poorest fifth of Americans will pay on average 10.9 percent of their income in state and local taxes, the middle fifth will pay 9.4 percent and the top 1 percent will average 5.4 percent.

    “Virtually every state’s tax system is fundamentally unfair,” the report concludes. “Unfair tax systems not only exacerbate widening income inequality in the short term, but they also will leave states struggling to raise enough revenue to meet their basic needs in the long term.”

    The trend is growing worse, said Meg Wiehe, state policy director at the institute, a nonpartisan research organization based in the nation’s capital. Several states have adopted or are considering policy changes that further lighten the tax load on their wealthiest residents, she said.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If you don't have a lot of cash you don't have to worry about someone taking that cash, eh?
    Correct- your worries are feeding, housing, and trying to provide for them.
    The other worries are gangs, drugs and crime as many live in poor areas.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Americans are smrt. We realized that by giving people freedom we took away their personal power. THat by saying they could have guns, it was like we were giving them guns. If I want a gun or to smoke pot or whatever, I would just do it. I don't need any libertarians or constitution to tell me what I can or can't do, especially when it's with strings attached, like we give you freedom as long as you become our goon and let us accumulate money dangerously without any regulation.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If you don't have a lot of cash you don't have to worry about someone taking that cash, eh?
    Word.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    So what?

    Most poor probably think the rich should be taxed at 90% of their income.

    Both thoughts are silly.


    No one poor wants to be poor. And taxing the rich 90% is asinine...just jealousy/sour grapes.

    Even for those poor that sit on their asses collecting government assistance, I guarantee you it taxes them emotionally.
    No one sane wants poverty even if they don't have to do anything to exist.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    payday loan places

    and car title loan places

    it would almost be better to go see Mac the loanshark than deal with these type of companies

    and too many get in, and then have trouble exiting

    they are big money makers if you can stand looking at your reflection in the mirror at night

    me...i couldnt do it......
    I wish someone would address this unneeded problem.

    Oh wait, they have.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...d-improve-dis/

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    "victims"?

    When I was growing up, I never thought of myself as a victim. My point stands. a rational person making 10k a year wouldn't give a dime to charity.

    and the amount $500 is offset by entitlments should they so choose to take.
    I don't know why you're bragging about:

    1) not realizing you're a victim

    2) hating on those who try and improve the world through whatever small piece they can.
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    I always love these threads, though the rich give BILLIONS of dollars to charity, it's not enough for the collectivists, it's never enough and never will be.
    The poor give until it hurts -- and they hurt to begin with; let me know of the rich meeting that level of dedication to their fellow citizen.
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/14/bu...inds.html?_r=0
    When it comes to the taxes closest to home, the less you earn, the harder you’re hit.

    That is the conclusion of an analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy that evaluates the local tax burden in every state, from Washington, labeled the most regressive, to Delaware, ranked as the fairest of them all.

    According to the study, in 2015 the poorest fifth of Americans will pay on average 10.9 percent of their income in state and local taxes, the middle fifth will pay 9.4 percent and the top 1 percent will average 5.4 percent.

    “Virtually every state’s tax system is fundamentally unfair,” the report concludes. “Unfair tax systems not only exacerbate widening income inequality in the short term, but they also will leave states struggling to raise enough revenue to meet their basic needs in the long term.”

    The trend is growing worse, said Meg Wiehe, state policy director at the institute, a nonpartisan research organization based in the nation’s capital. Several states have adopted or are considering policy changes that further lighten the tax load on their wealthiest residents, she said.
    I tapped into a website yesterday and found the reason why Romoney said what he did, he might have been correct about his 47% comment, but he never expounded as to why it was that way, which is income disparity, people are working lower paying jobs, which are not full time jobs, and even if the jobs were full time, the money earned still wouldn't be enough to require them to pay taxes.

    The tax code provides EIC's for those that have children, the elderly and other requirements, plus you need to make a certain dollar amount to be taxed at all. If a person earns only a small amount, say $14,000 a year, there is no tax income tax levied on that, but what Mittens failed at was noting that the 47% does pay some taxes, on goods, licensing fees for vehicles, everyday items people use, fuel taxes, foods, and a host of other items that are taxed. So he was factually incorrect.

    But being that he was talking to a group of would be donors, I can see why he would be less than honest about his comments, he just wanted their campaign contributions.

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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    How many of you give to charity, and how many just bitch about the poor for political reasons?
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Most of America’s rich think the poor have it easy

    Just about everyone downplays their own circumstances and ignores key aspects of others'.

    That being said: The bottom 10% of income earners in the U.S. live better lives than the bottom 10% in all but three nation, and better lives than the TOP 10% of all but eleven.


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