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re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Yeah man. That's AWESOME. It's the US fault that Muslim extremists butcher children in Indonesia. Of COURSE it is.

FM

You couldn't even address the actual statistics? Good. Now move along. :)
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

According to some, thats a majority.

I laughed out loud literally when I read the '45' ways muslims are taking a stand against fundamentalist extremists.

That **** is as pathetic and impotent as holding a sign saying "#bringbackourgirls"

You still lying about the examples I presented? Good. I wouldn't actually expect you to discuss anything other than the few bits of cherry picked information you want to believe. Tell us again how every single poll in the Muslim world showing a general opposition to terrorism equals "45 examples".
 
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re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Hatuey, you're just at fault here for generalization as those who claim all Muslims are terrorists because of the actions of some Muslims.
Sure this person who saved lives in the Jewish supermarket is a hero just as much as the Muslim police officer who was brutally executed while on duty at the Charlie Hebdo offices - but that says nothing about Muslims in general, just like the actions of the thugs doesn't say anything about the general world's population of Muslims.
One can never take a single person and reflect his values on an entire community he belongs to, and it doesn't matter if the reflected values are positive values or negative values. That's generalization, and generalization is always

That would be true if I showed them to be only examples of Muslims around the world acting in the fact of terrorism. You can continue to lie about what my post said but it won't change anything. :shrug:
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

You've got "Muslim friends" wow, does this make you a "Muslim" expert? Or is it more in line with a guy being called a racist saying " I have a black friend"? Also are you claiming to have your finger on the pluse of the Muslim community?

Nope, he asked if I have Muslim friends, as I've lived in about 5 countries with sizeable Muslim populations, I do. It's one of those things that happens when you're not a xenophobic scumbag. You get to meet people of other countries and backgrounds. :)
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Are you seriously asking why would a fanatic, radical terror organization lie about its intentions?
Seriously, what the ****.
You made the claim that Hamas is lying so you prove they lied. Come on, Im waiting.


I didn't 'get personal' mate I've referred to your positions which are clearly pro-Islamic-terror as you are defending two of the most vile Islamic terror organizations out there - Hamas and Hezbollah - by claiming that their actions, the murders of innocent Jewish civilians in Israel and globally for being Jewish, aren't acts of terrorism or aren't even 'coldblooded murders'. So there's simply no difference between you and the people who support the terror attacks in Paris. That's reality, deal with it.
So you accuse me of making a strawman and yet you do one yourself. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. :roll:

And no I never supported the terror attack in Paris. Youre a liar, just as always. Thanks for proving me right.
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Where did we stick our noses, prior to 9/11?

Plenty. Troops in Saudi Arabia, Somalia and meddling in other places like Iraq, we've been doing it for years and a backlash was coming.

Islam isn't a race, so puh-leeeese stop with the accusations of racism.
Really? So youre saying its okay to bash and discriminate against Muslims then? Funny, when someone is racist towards Jews they are called anti-Semitic but being racist towards Muslims is OK in your books. :roll:
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

That would be true if I showed them to be only examples of Muslims around the world acting in the fact of terrorism. You can continue to lie about what my post said but it won't change anything. :shrug:

You opened your post in the OP with: "The myth that Muslims simply stand idle as terrorism attacks happen is nonsense.".
You've given the OP as an example for how Muslims are like this and that.
You've generalized the same way those who claim all Muslims are terrorists do.
One is a positive generalization, the other a negative one. Yet both are generalizations.
Calling someone a liar is quite the pathetic argument I hope you'd agree.
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

You made the claim that Hamas is lying so you prove they lied. Come on, Im waiting.

Hilarious. I'm literally holding my belly right now.

So you accuse me of making a strawman and yet you do one yourself. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. :roll:

And no I never supported the terror attack in Paris. Youre a liar, just as always. Thanks for proving me right.

Glad to see you admitting to the strawman.

And I didn't claim you have supported the terror attacks in Paris, don't be ridiculous, I said your support for Hamas and Hezbollah is just like the people who support the terror attacks in Paris - that there is no difference between one support for terror and another.

Please do give it another try.
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

You opened your post in the OP with: "The myth that Muslims simply stand idle as terrorism attacks happen is nonsense.".

That is a true statement.

You've given the OP as an example for how Muslims are like this and that.

As well as other examples. See posts #1, #4 and #10.

You've generalized the same way those who claim all Muslims are terrorists do.
One is a positive generalization, the other a negative one. Yet both are generalizations.
Calling someone a liar is quite the pathetic argument I hope you'd agree.

Continuing to lie doesn't help your case.
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Plenty. Troops in Saudi Arabia, Somalia and meddling in other places like Iraq, we've been doing it for years and a backlash was coming.


Really? So youre saying its okay to bash and discriminate against Muslims then? Funny, when someone is racist towards Jews they are called anti-Semitic but being racist towards Muslims is OK in your books. :roll:

Just a quick note; Jewish is an ethnicity, part of the Semite race, hence attacks on Jews are usually racism.
Islam is a religion, not a race. If people were to make a racist claim regarding Arabs or Persians for example, now that would clearly be racist.
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

That is a true statement.

The first step towards solving a problem...

As well as other examples. See posts #1, #4 and #10.

You can list 200 examples it wouldn't make your generalization correct.
Just as people who claim all Muslims are terrorists can list dozens of thousands of examples yet they will not be correct.

Continuing to lie doesn't help your case.

So I take it that you are in disagreement and that you are actually under the belief that claiming my words are lies is a satisfying argument on your side.
Sad really.
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Well BO says america isn't a christian nation so I'm not really sure who is doing things in the name of Christianity?? What exactly is being done in the name of Christianity with my tax dollars? The feds do a lot of things with my money that I absolutely don't agree with, but in the name of Christ?? I don't see it.

BO is not the only person qualified to judge, and besides he is a fairly well known liar. I do not base my statement on what BO says.

It would be interesting to know what the ratio would be between Christians and muslims if one could analyze the religious affiliation of those killed by US drones or other weapons systems during the last 15 years.

Surely there must have been the random and occasional Christian killed, but my bet would be the ratio would be more than 10:1 muslims killed over Christians killed.

Get it?
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding them in walk-in freezer



The myth that Muslims simply stand idle as terrorism attacks happen is nonsense. Muslim police officers and firefighters helped during 9/11. Muslim nurses healed the victims of the Boston bombings. Muslims risk their lives every single day fighting terrorism. Millions more demonstrate against terrorism. Many more denounce attempts to radicalize them. Why people still push the bull**** lie that Muslims "are silent" while these attacks are going on is beyond me. It may be genuine run of the mill ignorance. However, when some of the people doing it are self admitted Islamophobes, one can't help but think that there is something far more sinister behind their words.

The likes for this post are certainly overwhelming. Nevertheless to take an example of one employee doing the right thing, and extrapolating that into millions and millions and millions of Muslims fighting off terrorism is absolutely ridiculous. And there is nothing sinister about see that given the lack of facts to support it. Sure I wish millions and millions of Muslims were doing the right thing, but there's no proof of that.
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

The first step towards admitting a problem...

Continuing to lie will not help you.

You can list 200 examples it wouldn't make your generalization correct.
Just as people who claim all Muslims are terrorists can list dozens of thousands of examples yet they will not be correct.

The problem with your claim is that my statements aren't based on incidents of terrorism attacks. My examples are based on statistical evidence regarding Muslim opinion as well as Muslim actions. Keep trying?

So I take it that you are in disagreement and that you are actually under the belief that claiming my words are lies is a satisfying argument on your side.
Sad really.

Lmao, that strategy may work in the M/E forum, but it doesn't work here. Your statements are lies because they're not even trying to determine whether the evidence I have provided is sufficient. They're looking at it from the point of "Oh! It's just a few Muslims", when in reality, it's hundreds of millions holding the discussions on radical Islam as well whether they oppose it or not. The evidence shows that the majority simply don't. That you continue to ignore this is your problem. Not mine. :shrug:
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Hilarious. I'm literally holding my belly right now.
Keep holding your big lying belly. Im still waiting for you to prove that Hamas lied on that.

Glad to see you admitting to the strawman.
I said you accused me of making a strawman. Read what I wrote again.

And I didn't claim you have supported the terror attacks in Paris, don't be ridiculous, I said your support for Hamas and Hezbollah is just like the people who support the terror attacks in Paris - that there is no difference between one support for terror and another.
You claim I didnt support it but then you said its just "like support"? Youre not fooling anybody with your lies. Keep digging that hole, like you always do.

Just a quick note; Jewish is an ethnicity, part of the Semite race, hence attacks on Jews are usually racism.
Islam is a religion, not a race. If people were to make a racist claim regarding Arabs or Persians for example, now that would clearly be racist.
Judaism is a religion for there are many blue eyed, blond Jews ( I know one very well from NYC) so for you trying to claim that between racism against Jews or Muslims is different is just another sad and desperate move on your part.
 
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There is no American action done in the "name of Christianity" or the name of Jesus. This is not a religious war to us. Maybe it is to a portion of Muslim extremists, but over here, it's a secular issue. This country is not a "Christian nation". The majority of citizens may be Christian, but we don't live in a theocracy, and we aren't fighting terrorism on the basis of religious ideology.

Right at the formal start of The Global War On Terrorism, post 911, General William Boykin made statements very reminiscent of the general atmosphere of religious wars. How many mentions of 'Christian Soldiers' have been invoked I wonder? Probably more than we talk about.

I am not talking about a government document declaring this to be a religious war we're involved in, I'm talking about the actions and words of a few of the players.

What do they really mean by "Onward, Christian Soldiers"?
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

The likes for this post are certainly overwhelming. Nevertheless to take an example of one employee doing the right thing, and extrapolating that into millions and millions and millions of Muslims fighting off terrorism is absolutely ridiculous. And there is nothing sinister about see that given the lack of facts to support it. Sure I wish millions and millions of Muslims were doing the right thing, but there's no proof of that.

Your ignorance is not really something to put on display.

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/quranic_verses_against_extremism/0013622
The American Muslim (TAM)
http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph...errorism_part_iii_statements_articles/0012211

Condemnations, fatwas, conferences, petitions, demonstrations, jihads etc against terrorism. All from different countries, all from this decade and the last. Continuing to perpetuate a lie at this point seems par for the course for the islamophobes.
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Your ignorance is not really something to put on display.

The American Muslim (TAM)
The American Muslim (TAM)
The American Muslim (TAM)

Condemnations, fatwas, conferences, petitions, demonstrations, jihads etc against terrorism. All from different countries, all from this decade and the last. Continuing to perpetuate a lie at this point seems par for the course for the islamophobes.

Muslim Brotherhood? Really? Nothing extreme about them. I think I've seen more Muslums burning American flags than are on your link. And that list is hardly in the millions.
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Continuing to lie will not help you.

No but your "liar liar" argument certainly would, and does, help me illustrate the stupidity of your claims by showing that they are backed with childish arguments.
Do continue.

The problem with your claim is that my statements aren't based on incidents of terrorism attacks. My examples are based on statistical evidence regarding Muslim opinion as well as Muslim actions. Keep trying?

That doesn't mean all Muslims are this and that.
To claim so is to generalize and that you have not understood it by now is very, very sad and very, very unfortunate.
I could point at statistics such as the pew survey that showed how a great part of the Muslim world is radical - that would not imply all Muslims are. The very thought that it would is bizarre.

Lmao, that strategy may work in the M/E forum, but it doesn't work here. Your statements are lies because they're not even trying to determine whether the evidence I have provided is sufficient. They're looking at it from the point of "Oh! It's just a few Muslims", when in reality, it's hundreds of millions holding the discussions on radical Islam as well whether they oppose it or not. The evidence shows that the majority simply don't. That you continue to ignore this is your problem. Not mine. :shrug:

This is no strategy, only pure logic mate. Something that you're clearly lacking if you are under the belief that showing some examples for a certain behavior among a group of people implies they all possess this certain behavior.

My issue is not with the claim that the majority of Muslims is this and that, you may claim that as long as you wish to, but that you have decided to open your post with the statement "The myth that Muslims simply stand idle as terrorism attacks happen is nonsense." means you've been generalizing an entire group of people over this example, no different from those who do so negatively. How is that too hard to understand?
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Keep holding your big lying belly. Im still waiting for you to prove that Hamas lied on that.

Haha, my belly ain't big mate, just as it isn't "lying", and that is quite the lame personal attack there.
The reason it is so funny is because you actually believe that a person needs to discredit the words of a terror organization for them to carry no credit. Do you realize the lengths you go to to express support for a terror organization?

I said you accused me of making a strawman. Read what I wrote again.

Yet you have not denied that you have no case in your claim about me "demonizing Muslims".
I haven't, you haven't backed that claim up, that was a clear and obvious strawman argument.

You claim I didnt support it but then you said its just "like support"? Youre not fooling anybody with your lies. Keep digging that hole, like you always do.

I'm not trying to, you're fooling yourself apparently.
There is no way for you to misunderstand my words as they were written originally. I said then what I said now - that your support for Hamas and Hezbollah is no different than the support for the terror attacks in Paris. If you feel I could have been understood to be saying something else you will quote my words and you would explain how. Since you do not do this you're clearly wasting bandwidth here.

Judaism is a religion for there are many blue eyed, blond Jews ( I know one very well from NYC) so for you trying to claim that between racism against Jews or Muslims is different is just another sad and desperate move on your part.

I didn't say Judaism is not a religion, I said Jewish is an ethnicity. Two different things. Seriously I question your ability to understand basic texts by now.
And since Jewish is an ethnicity attacks on Jewish people are racist. Quite the obvious I'm afraid.
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Muslim Brotherhood? Really? Nothing extreme about them. I think I've seen more Muslums burning American flags than are on your link. And that list is hardly in the millions.

Continuing to lie won't help your case. Please educate yourself:

Now that the Muslim Brotherhood is declared a terrorist group, it just might become one - The Washington Post

Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood is not a terrorist movement, at least not currently. But the move by the military-led government to ban it from politics and declare it a “terrorist organization” may become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The announcement followed a car bombing outside a government security building in Mansoura on Dec. 24 that killed at least 15 people; the government blamed the Brotherhood. Now, Brotherhood members and donors risk prosecution and imprisonment, and the ban is potentially crippling to the vast network of schools, clinics and other social services the Brotherhood runs and to the poor Egyptians who have long relied on them. Dozens of Brotherhood members have died in recent weeks in street protests, and the movement is reportedly reestablishing a clandestine infrastructure — learning, again, how to survive in the face of a government onslaught.
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

Your ignorance is not really something to put on display.

The American Muslim (TAM)
The American Muslim (TAM)
The American Muslim (TAM)

Condemnations, fatwas, conferences, petitions, demonstrations, jihads etc against terrorism. All from different countries, all from this decade and the last. Continuing to perpetuate a lie at this point seems par for the course for the islamophobes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

An awesome bunch of guys, maybe you should join if they're so good. :roll:
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

No but your "liar liar" argument certainly would, and does, help me illustrate the stupidity of your claims by showing that they are backed with childish arguments. Do continue.

Continuing to lie won't help your case. :)

That doesn't mean all Muslims are this and that.

This would be relevant if my claim was that "all Muslims" do this and that. Now move along. We've no time for your silly M/E arguments. :shrug:

This is no strategy, only pure logic mate. Something that you're clearly lacking if you are under the belief that showing some examples for a certain behavior among a group of people implies they all possess this certain behavior.

Doubling down on the strawman? Continue.

My issue is not with the claim that the majority of Muslims is this and that

Good, then what is your issue?

, you may claim that as long as you wish to, but that you have decided to open your post with the statement "The myth that Muslims simply stand idle as terrorism attacks happen is nonsense." means you've been generalizing an entire group of people over this example, no different from those who do so negatively. How is that too hard to understand?

Tripling down on the strawman? I'm hardly impressed.
 
re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

You still lying about the examples I presented? Good. I wouldn't actually expect you to discuss anything other than the few bits of cherry picked information you want to believe. Tell us again how every single poll in the Muslim world showing a general opposition to terrorism equals "45 examples".
:lamo

Read your own 'evidence'. Hell no, man...I didnt get past the first cited link. That "45 examples" was sheer comedy gold. 45 tweets, one paragraph statements, and a whole bunch of bull**** platitudes. On the plus side, you did literally give me cause to laugh...seriously...laugh out loud.

:lamo
 
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