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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    There are many good people who are Muslims. That important point should not be ignored. The extreme acts carried out by Islamist terrorists should not be used to define the character of all Muslims.

    Also, yesterday's edition of The New York Times profiled an Islamic scholar who teaches a perspective that differs greatly from that advanced by the radical Islamists.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/wo...many.html?_r=0
    Is there anyone denying anything you said? Or is this entire thread just one big straw man?

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post

    The myth that Muslims simply stand idle as terrorism attacks happen is nonsense. Muslim police officers and firefighters helped during 9/11. Muslim nurses healed the victims of the Boston bombings. Muslims risk their lives every single day fighting terrorism. Millions more demonstrate against terrorism. Many more denounce attempts to radicalize them. Why people still push the bull**** lie that Muslims "are silent" while these attacks are going on is beyond me. It may be genuine run of the mill ignorance. However, when some of the people doing it are self admitted Islamophobes, one can't help but think that there is something far more sinister behind their words.
    I agree with your larger point, but in all fairness, this guy wouldn't have known so far as I can tell that these were Muslims attacking the store. He heard gunfire and got people in a freezer. Good on him. I do not see that his religion really is relevant to what he did.

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    There is no American action done in the "name of Christianity" or the name of Jesus. This is not a religious war to us. Maybe it is to a portion of Muslim extremists, but over here, it's a secular issue. This country is not a "Christian nation". The majority of citizens may be Christian, but we don't live in a theocracy, and we aren't fighting terrorism on the basis of religious ideology.


    I'm going to give G.W. Bush credit for one thing: I believe that he made that clear shortly after this terrorism kerfuffle 1st kicked off.

    But some people in the USA who belong to the evangelical far right still have their heads up their butts about all this.

    I don't know of any cure for that-some people are going to be as stupid as they want to be.

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    But some people in the USA who belong to the evangelical far right still have their heads up their butts about all this.
    I think there may be a small percentage of evangelicals who are crazy enough to think this is a religious war, but for the most part, even the staunch Christians don't see it that way. Although I am not Christian, nor outwardly religious, I have frequent exposure and interaction with them, as my family is just about as Christian-religious as you can get, but they don't discuss the war on terror from the perspective of religion. I am not a supporter of either of the actions which GW Bush initiated, and I never did support them. That being said, the ISIS issue is something that I think needs to be eradicated. Not because of their religion, but because they are criminally insane.
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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    How many people did it take to start the Christian religion?

    Fill us in.




    "The church is precisely that against which Jesus preached -- and against which he taught his disciples to fight." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I'm a conservative, and a Christian and I believe even if Muslims did speak out( which they do, I don't know why people say they don't) that still wouldn't stop the crazies from killing. You can't reason with crazy!!
    I agree. Thats why there needs to be more than 45 examples of tweets and small statements of 'outrage'.

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont know if its more sad they actually believe it or if they know its bull**** and just spew it as a lie.
    These are the same folks who say all cops are racists.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I agree. Thats why there needs to be more than 45 examples of tweets and small statements of 'outrage'.
    What percentage of 1 billion is 45?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Do you suppose that Christians too have the same obligation to cull the extremists? If so, how should this be done?
    Christians should...of course. They should vocally draw lines of distinction. They should shun them they should do everything in their power to ensure the group be remote and isolated (ala Westboro for example). They should ensure there be no safe haven within their church. They should move against them to shut off financial ties. And it should done 24/7...not just by holding up a little hashtag sign. It damn sure shouldnt be excused, or justified. There sho9uld defintely never be any of that inanae bull**** "well..you know...SURE it was wrong...but...you know...if you guys didnt make them angry....well...I mean...come on..at the end of the day, you had to expect something like that..."

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What percentage of 1 billion is 45?
    According to some, thats a majority.

    I laughed out loud literally when I read the '45' ways muslims are taking a stand against fundamentalist extremists.

    That **** is as pathetic and impotent as holding a sign saying "#bringbackourgirls"

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