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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sorry, but I'm not going to get excited because less than 1% of the Muslims in the world oppose Muslim terrorism.

    Save all that propaganda for your pards in your little feel good krewe.

    The Charlie Hebdo attackers were French citizens, who his out in the Muslim community. And, no one within that community said a damn thing.
    Google works you know. But then again, you would say that since all you ever watch is Fox News.

    French Muslim groups condemn Charlie Hebdo killings, mosques attacked - France - RFI

    Even Hamas condemns the attacks but you wont hear that on Fox either:

    http://news.yahoo.com/hamas-condemns...140325193.html

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Google works you know. But then again, you would say that since all you ever watch is Fox News.

    French Muslim groups condemn Charlie Hebdo killings, mosques attacked - France - RFI

    Even Hamas condemns the attacks but you wont hear that on Fox either:

    Hamas condemns Charlie Hebdo attack
    I know how Google works.

    Here, let me Google something for you:

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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Even non-Muslims justify and excuse Muslim terrorism.
    I dont know if its more sad they actually believe it or if they know its bull**** and just spew it as a lie.

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Google works you know. But then again, you would say that since all you ever watch is Fox News.

    French Muslim groups condemn Charlie Hebdo killings, mosques attacked - France - RFI

    Even Hamas condemns the attacks but you wont hear that on Fox either:

    Hamas condemns Charlie Hebdo attack
    I don't watch Fox. In fact, I have never watched it. Maybe I should get cable and watch it.

    Why is their such continuous hate for Fox News?
    Isn't it the most popular news source in the USA?
    IMO: If you don't like it, you shouldn't watch it! Seems pretty simple!

    I do go to their website for news. I also go to CNN, MSN, Townhall, etc.
    Also, if you visit Fox News - Breaking News Updates | Latest News Headlines | Photos & News Videos, their website, and do a quick search you will find several articles on Muslims, including Hamas, condemning the attacks.

    However, I am reading that Hamas is just pissed because they don't like other Islamic terrorist groups getting all of the publicity and "glory".

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    I don't watch Fox. In fact, I have never watched it. Maybe I should get cable and watch it.

    Why is their such continuous hate for Fox News?
    Isn't it the most popular news source in the USA?
    IMO: If you don't like it, you shouldn't watch it! Seems pretty simple!

    I do go to their website for news. I also go to CNN, MSN, Townhall, etc.
    Also, if you visit Fox News - Breaking News Updates | Latest News Headlines | Photos & News Videos, their website, and do a quick search you will find several articles on Muslims, including Hamas, condemning the attacks.

    However, I am reading that Hamas is just pissed because they don't like other Islamic terrorist groups getting all of the publicity and "glory".
    Hamas and Hezbollah are both vile terror groups responsible for the cold blooded murders of countless of innocents for their Jewish origin, so clearly when they condemn such an attack they do not do so because they are shocked from the results. The clear explanation is that the attacks were carried by al-Qaeda and IS, organizations that Hamas and Hezbollah (and the Iranian government that operates them) are in an open war with.
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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding them in walk-in freezer



    The myth that Muslims simply stand idle as terrorism attacks happen is nonsense. Muslim police officers and firefighters helped during 9/11. Muslim nurses healed the victims of the Boston bombings. Muslims risk their lives every single day fighting terrorism. Millions more demonstrate against terrorism. Many more denounce attempts to radicalize them. Why people still push the bull**** lie that Muslims "are silent" while these attacks are going on is beyond me. It may be genuine run of the mill ignorance. However, when some of the people doing it are self admitted Islamophobes, one can't help but think that there is something far more sinister behind their words.
    Hatuey, you're just at fault here for generalization as those who claim all Muslims are terrorists because of the actions of some Muslims.
    Sure this person who saved lives in the Jewish supermarket is a hero just as much as the Muslim police officer who was brutally executed while on duty at the Charlie Hebdo offices - but that says nothing about Muslims in general, just like the actions of the thugs doesn't say anything about the general world's population of Muslims.
    One can never take a single person and reflect his values on an entire community he belongs to, and it doesn't matter if the reflected values are positive values or negative values. That's generalization, and generalization is always
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    B-but,
    all Muslims are evil!!
    Or something.


    Except those who aren't, eh?

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    A different section than that which you bolded caught my eye:



    "Muslim support for terror" is broadly assent through silence. You do get excellent counter-examples (personally, I'm interested in seeing what comes of el-Sisi's recent public moves).

    However, you also have a strong paranoia/us-v-them/legitimacy-through-the-group mentality that enables the extremists. Non-Muslim westerners who have little idea what they are talking about like to say that fundamentalism is a "perversion" is Islam. It's not.
    It's a legitimate reading of the texts,
    with a jurisprudential history a mile long. When the group who are most likely to support/enable extremists overlaps with those who are also most likely to enjoy the respect of an enclave-like community and the alien society they find themselves surrounded in legitimizes those individuals as well in order to reach "authentic local leadership" the conditions are set for a determined minority to be enabled by a silent majority who may personally disagree, but who either aren't willing to challenge the leadership or who prefer to deal with the cognitive dissonance by seeking consolation in conspiracy theories which redeem the group. For young males raised to think of themselves as an angry, put-down "other" in an alien society, extremism also offers self-affirmation, purpose, identity, meaning, respect, and plus you look like a bad-ass on facebook.

    That is the importance of the killing of the Muslim cop. Killing other Muslims is a big ideological entry-barrier for the general Muslim community (if not, unfortunately, often the critical demographic described above).


    Read the Bible's Old Testament, which a few evangelicals on the far-right would like to see become U.S. law and tell us what you think.

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    One guy?


    How many people did it take to start the Christian religion?

    Fill us in.




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    Last edited by shrubnose; 01-11-15 at 06:08 AM.

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    re: Muslim worker at Paris kosher grocer saved customers from gunman by hiding [W:186]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    I don't watch Fox. In fact, I have never watched it. Maybe I should get cable and watch it.

    Why is their such continuous hate for Fox News?
    Isn't it the most popular news source in the USA?
    IMO: If you don't like it, you shouldn't watch it! Seems pretty simple!

    I do go to their website for news. I also go to CNN, MSN, Townhall, etc.
    Also, if you visit Fox News - Breaking News Updates | Latest News Headlines | Photos & News Videos, their website, and do a quick search you will find several articles on Muslims, including Hamas, condemning the attacks.

    However, I am reading that Hamas is just pissed because they don't like other Islamic terrorist groups getting all of the publicity and "glory".
    And that is exactly why I dont bother with Fox News because that claim is a lie.

    A statement in French said Hamas "condemns the attack against Charlie Hebdo magazine and insists on the fact that differences of opinion and thought cannot justify murder."
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I know how Google works.

    Here, let me Google something for you:

    Lip service - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    So no such thing as a good Muslim in your view, eh? OK.

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